User talk:Mayu Miyuki/more stuff

As if the purpose of this page wasn't already obvious, this is a complete listing of all enemy spells in the SFC and GBA versions of Phantasia. Physical attacks like the basilisk's 石化光線 (Sekkakousen) are not included, and I excluded Tetra Spell since only Dhaos has it in every game ever. This list includes even the minor enemies, but I lack data for the PSX/PSP version of Phantasia, and I don't intend to play through the entire game again. The PSX/PSP version is likely most similar to the GBA version data, but I can't claim that as truth, so that info will be left out. If info for either SFC or GBA versions does not exist for a given arte, that means there are no enemies that use the spell in that version, making it exclusive to the version that is listed, as far as enemies are concerned.

If you want to help out rather than not doing anything, and you aren't interested in image categorization grunt work, then you can do this grunt work instead! Add this info into the correct pages. And while you're at it, add in the info from here, here, and here, since no one else has not bothered to integrate our efforts into the arte pages at all, despite the many people who continue to work on the pages that don't need to be worked on. It's depressing. We even scripted the text so you only have to copy/paste what we wrote for you guys! Why can't we enslave you for a change...?

And all of those ToEO artes also need to be displayed as appearances on the arte pages, don't continue to ignore them...

Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 06:31, February 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * I've been absent from working on Aselia for a while now, and even if I wasn't, I'm focusing on the untouched artes. I can start writing this now, but I won't start with the ToEO just yet. By the way, next time you make these stuffs, can you then link the artes so that it might be easier for people to go to these pages?


 * Funny to see that you get so worked up by this when you always claim that you don't care, though XD But I guess anyone would get frustrated if they put a lot of effort into something that everyone ignores.


 * Penamesolen 09:53, February 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sure, I'll add the links from now on.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 15:10, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Element Categories
Since I'm already sorting things this way, I think we need to try to categorize the existing pages by element. Most traditionally-lightning-elemental spells are likely to end up in at least four different element categories due to the different elemental systems in each game, yes. But as it stands now, all spells are sorted by novice/intermediate/advanced, and it is hard to navigate between three massive categories.

It shouldn't be too hard to add in the correct categories at the same time the enemy data is added into the pages, since every page will have to be edited anyway. We might as well get multiple things done at once. I plan to have these new categories named "Category:Fire Elemental Magic", "Non-Elemental Magic", "Elemental Magic" for the spells that fall under Maxwell's domain in Eternia, and so on. We may eventually do something similar with physical attacks with elemental attributes... but let's not deal with that yet.

Oh, and that MagArtes template? I never wanted to keep it in the first place, but is there any way to make it more useful or efficient? I really don't like listing all spells that exist in the series, since several new ones appear with every game, and it's impossible to sort all of them by general tier/damage/usefulness levels when each game has different battle mechanics, sorting methods, and damage calculations. The way the spells are sorted now on that template, I just dumped everything together arbitrarily, and even I can't make sense of my original intent anymore, besides my obvious bias for Team Destiny's spells. If we resort them alphabetically, then there's no point in having a template for navigation if the same thing can be found on a category, beyond giving the end-user a few less links to click.

Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 07:14, February 11, 2010 (UTC)