User talk:Arosia


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Archival
All previous conversations have been archived. Begin a new conversation by simply leaving a message on this page. Moviebaby (talk) 18:00, October 27, 2012 (UTC)

Torn
First of all, congrats on archiving your talk page. Second, in regards to Aspio, where I am now, I am torn as to the nickname. Mind you, I have no intention of changing the title of the Aspio article. Should we nickname it: A) The Sealed Academic City. B) The Sealed City of Scholars. or C) The City of Scholars?

Please let me know.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 23:55, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

I am currently playing through the game, and I have seen no mention of it being referred to as anything but the "City of Scholars" and "City of Shade" by the mayor of Halure. I'm going to fix the article now. Another thing: CONDENSE YOUR COMMENTS IN REGARD TO SPACING. You're the reason I had to archive my talk page. Moviebaby (talk) 02:27, October 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * Translation: Winxfan is spewing crap all over others' talk pages again, and this particular one had to be archived twice due to the amount that was spewed onto it. Also Winxfan is trying to invent names when OUR POLICY IS TO USE WHAT IS OFFICIALLY LOCALIZED, and this other type of crap was input into an actual article. I want to treat it as vandalism so badly.


 * Edit - Archival is never a good thing. If a page needs to be archived, it means that the page is full of topics that should have been placed on the pages that directly relate to those topics, or that certain users don't know how to keep a given conversation in ONE PLACE. It's no surprise that Winxfan is a criminal perpetrator of this, given how most conversations started on this poor soul's talk page end up on mine, causing -my- talk page to blow up in size. And I am not amused that Winxfan is trying to do same archival process because everyone else is doing it as if it could ever be a good thing, since it means all of my arguments will only have to be reiterated on that talk page once again. I would say it's best to delete every single edit Winxfan has ever made on this wiki to conserve space and reduce our archival intervals, if I were not so stringent about the historical value of past conversations, as horrible as every single Winxfan topic can be.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 07:45, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

-deep breath-

The reason I'm asking Moviebaby about this is because I'm playing Vesperia as well. When I first arrived in Aspio, the title of the city was "The Sealed City of Scholars, Aspio", which it was also called in the World Map Menu and when I went back to the world map overview it was refered to as "The Sealed Academic City, Aspio". These were names within the localized version of the game itself and I just wanted to know which was more correct, that's all. BTW, my talk page was pretty cluttered with the stuff I put in so I archived half of it. And I wouldn't delete the only good edits I made if I were you, after all, who was it that got info for the arte pages Absorption, Lucky and Happy Light which were otherwise blank. I also managed to get Radiant Mythology descriptions for Aqua Edge and a few other artes that didn't have these. Finally, Mayu, maybe you could ask your old friends Lanate and Zolo for help on everything here or get new editors to check on edits for you. I'm sure there's an editor somewhere who's just as good as you are. No one is expectiong you to do the job on your own. Don't be afraid to ask people for help. That's all I have to say on these matters.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 09:07, October 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * Fuck it, if you are going to claim these as if they are your own crowning moments of being useful, it's time for me to scrap each of these pages. You did NOT get these descriptions, the SOURCE YOU CITED did, and you merely COPIED it. If there are other people to help on this wiki, AT LEAST NONE OF THEM ARE YOU. If you want to be useful, then GET THE FUCK OFF OF THE INTERNET.


 * Edit - If you're going to quantify "good edits", then everything that is done which is not touched, updated, or complained about by any other user is "passable" and not necessarily "good". Each of those three pages have been FIXED after you poisoned them, so they were not "passable" until the fixes were made. I am crying because I want to be the tyrant dictator who will delete these pages and then re-publish them with your edits stricken from the record. YOU READ THAT RIGHT, I'M CRYING. YOU MADE ME LIKE THIS. I WANT TO DELETE EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU ON THIS WIKI FROM EXISTENCE. BUT I CAN'T BECAUSE I HAVE VALUES AND MORALS. And I'm calling upon your values and morals to leave this wiki permanently, no questions asked. It's the right thing to do, and if you won't do so, you are proving to the world that you are a bad person.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 09:59, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

I'm a bad person? I'm trying to be nice and you call me the bad guy? Maybe YOU should leave. Or better yet, delete this whole wiki altogether since no one cares about it.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 11:04, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

Correction: There are plenty of people who care about this wiki, and it's not going to be deleted. I will say that I looked at a few online walkthroughs and saw that it is the "Sealed City of Scholars". I myself did not notice this while playing, but I will certainly verify this and make the necessary changes MYSELF. We all miss things, and I'm not saying I'm perfect. Moviebaby (talk) 18:23, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry I lashed out like that. Mayu really knows how to get to me. Crimsonnavy said to me: "Your edits have always been a huge asset for the wiki, I doubt that we would have half of the current episodes here if you hadn't been working hard, making new pages and adding content. You've never been warned about not being up to our standards here, but I don't know the standards Aselia Wiki holds. In my book, any edit that adds information is not garbage, the only thing that is garbage is spam. If they want articles to be a certain way, usually it is best to do like they ask. But, if they are being offensive to users who are trying to honestly help, then maybe they don't deserve your edits. But that is just my opinion." But like he said, that's his opinion. In terms of playthrough, I'm at Ehmead Hill now, and it looks like I'm ahead of you. If you have already been to Aspio, check the World Map menu. If not head there. That's all the advice I can give you. BTW, you never gave me your opinion on the Zaphias article I wrote. I knew Mayu said it would be terrible but I want to hear your opinion on the matter. One last thing, did you get hit by Hurricane Sandy? I'm experiencing it in the Cape right now. Which means my internet connection will be coming and going. I'll do something else in case the power goes out. I'll contact you again tomorrow, provided I still have a connection.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 20:10, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

Actually, I'm in Keiv Moc, so I'm ahead of you. I will look at your content when it comes time to creating the Zaphias article. As for Hurricane Sandy, I'm in the Central Time Zone, so no, I haven't been affected by it. Moviebaby (talk) 21:01, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much. That's all I ask. You're lucky. I lost power for almost 21 hours. And the Aspio name? Oh and congrats on making it to Keiv Moc. Did you complete the secret missions up to that point? Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 16:57, October 30, 2012 (UTC)

For the record the "City of Shades" is mentioned by the Halure's Mayor once you leave the city, refering to the darkness of the city because it's built inside a cave. The "The Sealed City of Scholars" Aspio is the official title for Aspio, such as the "Enduring Shrine" of Zaude. Anyway good luck to anyone living in the USA cause hurricane Sandy.--Juan Ma (talk) 18:01, October 30, 2012 (UTC)

@Winxfan: I will check on the Aspio name(s) tonight. @Juan Ma: Yes, I know. I've already included "City of Shade" (not "shades") in the article. Also, do you happen to have any images of Kaufman and Regaey (Yeager) from Vesperia? Just curious since I'm preparing an article for the Five Master Guilds.

Moviebaby (talk) 23:27, October 30, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for that and sorry for giving you more info than you would have liked for the Quoi Woods article. The original author, SouryuuUpper34590, didn't have much info to begin with so after it was tweaked I decided to add some more detail to it. You think it's time we add that "Vesperia Locations" template, plus it would be awesome if we had a pic of Kaufman. Though not many of you knew this, Megan Hollingshead did provide Kaufman with her voice. And, for another record, Regaey's pic should also be included in Yeager's article since Regaey was an alter-ego for Yeager.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 00:21, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

Images Kaufman & Regaey
I don't have images for Kaufman and Regaey, however I can take it if those pages are created. Anyone feel free to ask me for images under my range of possibilities as I mentioned before. --Juan Ma (talk) 00:25, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

It would be greatly appreciated. I intend to include them in the Five Master Guilds article, and any image of Regaey can be included in Yeager's article as well. Moviebaby (talk) 18:13, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

Already uploaded. --Juan Ma (talk) 18:14, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

All right, thank you. I will go ahead and include Regaey's image on Yeager's article. Moviebaby (talk) 18:17, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

What about in-game shots of Don Whitehorse, Yeager, Gauche, and Droite? It would be better to have an individual shot of Gauche and Droite for the sake of their infoboxes. Moviebaby (talk) 23:09, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

I was thinking the same thing about Droite and Gauche. It sure would be less confusing. Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 00:05, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

Already uploaded. Please add it to the articles. --Juan Ma (talk) 04:13, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

Much appreciated. Thank you. Moviebaby (talk) 05:01, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

Oh! Juan Ma, do you think you could obtain an image of Fortune's Market's headquarters in Capua Torim? It would fit beautifully in the article I'm working on. Moviebaby (talk) 04:56, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

Uploaded. --Juan Ma (talk) 01:50, November 6, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Unfortunately, there isn't any room for it on the article right now. I'll remember to add it if I can find a place. Moviebaby (talk) 02:33, November 6, 2012 (UTC)

How to Propose Pages for Deletion?
Hey Moviebaby, sorry but I'm unfamiliar with how some things work for Wikia. I clicked on Random Page, and it brought me to the Wolf Pack arte page, which is nearly empty. My question is: how do you propose a page for deletion? I don't know if I'm supposed to tell an admin or if there's a process for it. Darth Rihilu (talk) 08:01, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

Simply replace the content of the article with "{ { delete } }". Of course, without the spaces in between. Moviebaby (talk) 18:02, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

Capua Nor
I'm contacting you to let you know that thanks to you I archived half my talk page. Second, I'm going to e-mail you my articles via Gmail, provided you have a Gmail account. I've done articles of Deidon Hold, Halure, Shaikos Ruins, and Ehmead Hill. I'm working on the article for Capua Nor now, but I should warn you it is going to be very long by the time I get to Capua Torim, and that will be for just the mandatory part. Well, good luck with Ghasfarost.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 17:25, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

I believe I provided my Gmail account (foolishly) on your talk page a while back, but removed it some time later. However, I have since deleted that account and created a new one, which I am not willing to provide, sorry. Anything relating to this wiki should be published here. Moviebaby (talk) 18:11, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

I know, but every time I post an article here it's considered clutter. It's not finished but here's what I've come up with so far. Remember, you were warned: Capua Nor, also known as Nor Harbor is a port town located west of Ehmead Hill in Tales of Vesperia. It was a port town ruled by the tyranical magistrate Ragou and it rained due to a blastia that could control weather, but thanks to the efforts of Yuri Lowell and his friends, the weather was more enjoyable and everyone was much happier. It is described as a thriving port under the jurisdiction of the Empire and passenger liners, freight vessels and military vessels frequent the port.

First arrival
When the party first arrives here they notice the weather was rather gloomy and it changed fast. Karol Capel suggested they find an in before they get soaked to the bone. Estelle tells Yuri that a harbor town would be more lively and Yuri agreed with her. Rita Mordio added that it would be perfect for the core thief to hang out, and Yuri reminded her Dedecchi headed to Capua Torim, otherwise known as Torim Harbor, and Rita suggested the two were similar, but Karol added that only Nor Harbor was scummy. He further explained to Estelle that the Empire was to blame for the events at Capua Nor.

The party soon notices a couple being harassed by a thug and an accountant who were holding their son as collateral. The husband explained that because of the weather no boats were able to launch and could not pay their taxes. The thug suggests he catch a Rhybgaro and the accountant says that with the horn, the couple will have their taxes cleared. The party was disgusted by this, with Karol saing the influence of the Empire is strong and things got worse since the new magistrate took over, saying he was an imperial big shot who did whatever he wanted, meaning there was no one to complain to when his henchmen act the way they do.

The husband goes off to hunt the beast. The wife tries to stop him but her pleas fall on deaf ears, until Yuri stops him by tripping him with his foot. Estelle then heals the husband, Teagle, but the wife, Kellas, says she could not afford it. Yuri tells her to thank Estelle for kindly healing the husband. He then notices a cloaked figure and goes off, leaving everyone puzzled as to where he went.

Reunion
Yuri gets ambushed by the red eyes and was about to be finished off until Flynn Scifo arrived and helped him beat them, and in an unexpected moment Flynn turns his sword on Yuri preparing to arrest him for his crimes though he was more or less happy to see him. On the one hand Flynn was happy to see Yuri travelling the world, but on the other hand he was not pleased to see a wanted poster of him with his bounty increased to 10,000 Gald, never imagining his friend would become a criminal. Yuri explained that a lot happened and it wasn't simple and Flynn replied by saying a crime is a crime. Yuri was sort of happy to know his friend was the same as ever and then Estelle showed up, happy to see Flynn after so long. She kindly greeted Flynn with open arms and he took her to the hotel. Yuri went off to look for Karol and Rita who were at the hotel. Karol said he saw Estelle and Flynn enter the hotel and when Yuri tried to get in, Rita stopped him. Karol suggested he take a look around town and after doing so they went inside the inn.

Once inside, Flynn tells Yuri he heard about everything that happened up to the point they arrived and the reason for the bounty on him. He thanks him for protecting Estelle, who also expresses her gratitude. Yuri replies by saying he was already looking for the thief who stole the core of the aque blastia in the lower quarter of Zaphias, but Flynn rebuttles by telling him the law does not allow obstructing officers, jailbreaking and trespassing, which was revealed by Estelle and which Yuri admits. Flynn asks if Yuri was prepared to receive his just punishment, which Yuri replies by asking if he wanted further explaination, which Flynn already deduced was all to get the core back. Just then a young woman and a child enter with news, with the child pointing at Rita for refusing to help Flynn. Yuri asked Rita who the child was but she had no clue. Flynn introduced the woman as Sodia, his second-in-command, who simply bowed her head and the young boy Witcher another mage from Aspio who accepted Flynn's offer to help him. As he was about to introduce Yuri to the two, she immediately recognized him from the posters and drew her sword at him, but Flynn ordered her to stand down saying he was a friend. She rebuttles by pointing out he was a wanted man, but Flynn informs her that even though he was guilty of small crimes the warrant for his arrest contaied accusations that were untrue and gave her peace of mind by offering to return him to Zaphias and explain the situation and will recieve his punishment. She then sheathed her sword and apologized for her behavior and had Witcher explain his report.

He tells Flynn that the current weather was caused by a blastia and further explains that though the weather is unpredictable there was no explaination as to why it gets worse when boats leave port. Sodia adds more by telling him about a testimony of a blastia being carried into the palace of the magestrate, Ragou. Rita claimed that she never heard of a blastia that could control the weather and tries to piece together the aque blastia and the events of the Shaikos Ruins. Yuri deduces that Ragou is using the blastia to control the weather, and Sodia confirms Yuri's deduction but can't say for sure without proof in addition she says that the harbor was closed due to the weather and any ship that makes an attempt to leave will be fired on. Flynn adds more of Ragou's corruption to Yuri, explaining that he released a monster known as the Rhybgaro and he amuses himself by forcing people who can't pay taxes to hunt it down and claims he will pardon their taxes if they catch the monster. Estelle thought of this as cruel and Rita added that the injured couple, Teagle and Kellas, were more victims of Ragou's cruel game along with their child. When Flynn asked about the child, Yuri told him not to worry about it and stay at the inn for the night. As Yuri left Sodia reminded Flynn about a missing person.

Seeing the Magistrate
After leaving the hotel, Karol asked what Yuri was going to do. Estelle said she was going to see Ragou about his corruption but Karol told her that the party will be turned away and not even Estelle would get in. Yuri replied by saying with the harbor blocked off, they can't go to Capua Torim and Dedecchi and his client were already there. Rita suggested they just go and Yuri says if they can not be shown entry they will have to come up with another plan and with that the party was off to see Ragou. As they approached the palace they are stopped by two thugs and when Estelle asked to meet with Ragou Karol told Yuri they were mercinaries. One of the mercinaries tells them the magistrate is busy and Yuri insults him by saing he was not too busy bullying the people in town. Karol suggested that the party leave before things got bad to which Yuri agreed. Estelle wondered if there was another way but Rita told her to forget it and the party left. Yuri suggested that they leave the attack on the front door to the knights but Rita stated that the knight could not do a thing was why Flynn was in a bad mood. But Yuri suggested that maybe Ragou would see him if the gave him a gift: the Rhybgaro which was mentioned by the official and worth a lot of money and with the horn no one would worry about taxes ever again. Yuri's suggestion was if they brought him something that valuable they would have an audience with Ragou. They Karol thought it was great since it was raining and Estelle asked why, with Karol explaining that the Rhybgaro only comes out when it rains and out of all the monsters he knew it was th only one that can do so. Yuri asked if there was anything else he should know but Karol said that was it. Then Yuri asked where the monster was but Karol did not know that either, so Estelle came up with an idea: ask the people in town if they know where it is. Yuri asked Estelle if that was ok with her to which she replied yes, but Yuri told her if they were not lucky, then they could be arrested and asked if he was ok with defying the magistrate and Estelle confirms she wants to go. He then asked Rita, who was rather intriged about a weather controlling blastia and with this conviction the party go to find the beast.

As Yuri's party was about to leave, they run into Flynn's party and Flynn tells him not to do anything reckless but Yuri relied by saying he had not done anything reckless since the day he was born, he was simply chasing the blastia thief and that Flynn should ease up trying to do the impossible. As Yuri left, Flynn asked Witcher if hs party could get the right to search blastia laboratories which he agreed to. Flynn couldn't help but wonder if leaving Zaphias changed Yuri at all but it made him more reckless than before. He then tells Estelle that he is single-minded when it came to protecting other people and would sacrifice himself to do so. He revealed he was envious of that quality bt worries he might take it too far. Karol tells Estelle to hurry up and as she leaves, Flynn asked her how it was to walk outside freely, to which Estelle says that it has been wonderful which gives Flynn some peace of mind.

On the outskirts of town, the party notices the rain letting up but it was still cloudy. Karol then explains the concept of weather and how different monsters show up depending on it. Estelle complimented Karol on his nowledge of monsters but Yuri suggested they had to walk in the rain, with Rita saying the weather might change in the morning. Karol suggested the best cure for a gloomy day was to sleep it away, but Rita suggested that it might be gloomy the next day, and Yuri said rainy days might not be so bad and somethings happen on rainy days that do not happen in sunny weather. After that he suggested that they get some sleep and wait for the sky to clear up with Rita saing it might rain the next day and Karol calling her mean.

Trivia

 * Capua Nor is one of three cities that have rather depressing music when the party first arrives but after clearing certain conditions the music changes to something more upbeat, with the other two cities being Halure in Tales of Vesperia and Hima from Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World
 * The music changes to a remix of the music from Capua Torim

And this is up to when Yuri and co. went to find the Rhybgaro.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 21:51, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

Here's the rest: The party find the Rhybgaro in a forest south of the town and after the battle Karol suggested they take it back with them, but Estelle notices that it was covered in scars from people desperate to kill it and feels empathy for it. She reassures the rest of the party that the townspeople were not to blame and Yuri understands because the monster was being treated just as badly as the people who were trying to catch it. In an act of kindness, Yuri pulled off the horn of the beast sparring its life saying that the horn was all they really needed. This surprised Rita and Karol notices the monster getting back up, but it ran away with Estelle saying it knew what they were thinking, which surprised Karol. With the horn the party returned to Capua Nor.

They soon return to find Teagle determined to find the Rhybgaro again and Kellas pleading him to stop. Yuri asked what he was going to do with the sword he was holding and he said it was none of his business and he can not interfere with his affairs because of mere curiosity. With that, Yuri handed over the Golden Horn to Teagle, who was shocked to see it. Yuri apologized for tripping over him and hoped the horn would more than make up for it. The two thanked him for such a wonderful gift. Karol was angry at Yuri for giving away their only way into the palace but Yuri said it was worth it if it could save their child. Estelle saw right through Yuri's facade saying he planned to give them the horn from the beginning, but Yuri passed it off saying the thought came to him. Rita also was mad at him for giving the horn away but Yuri assured them they'll find another way into the palace. Estelle then asked him to see how Flynn was doing on his part with Karol hoping that he set Ragou straight. The party then decided to go to the inn.

Once inside Yuri greeted Flynn in his usual way and Flynn replying with a sarcastic yet true remark of his own. Flynn asked if his bounty was raised higher and Yuri replied by saying Flynn thought his party went to Ragou's manor. Flynn said he did and even brought a search warrant from the blastia research lab, making Yuri ask if he looked around. Sadly,Flynn told them that the magistrate refused to let them in. Witcher added more depressing news: the magistrate tried to provoke them into attacking. Sodia adds that he knew they didn't have the proper jurisdiction to investigate and was making a mockery of them. Yuri asked if he was right, provoking Sodia. Yuri then told them that if they think they were right they should force their way in, but Flynn told them that it was a political trap to have the Imperial Guard make a mistake so Ragou can use it as an excuse to increase his authority of the Council and if they charged in, he would hide the evidence and feign innocence. Estelle asked if Ragou was on the Council and he said yes and added that the Knights and the Council were both essential organizations that support the empire and Ragou forgot that fact. Yuri asked what they will do next, but Flynn did not have an answer. Witcher then had an idea: if there were a disturbance inside the palace, the knights would be able to move in under the pretense of emergency prerogative and Estelle backed up that fact with one from a book she read saying that the knights may employ prerogative to intervine in emergency situations regardless of jurisdiction. This gave Yuri an idea saying that if a thief snuck in and caused a rukus it would give the knights a reason to enter the palace. Flynn knew what he would be up to and tried to tell him not to be reckless but he interrupted him. Flynn then went off to patrol the town to keep an eye out for a wanted fugitive trying to get into the magistrates palace.

Infiltrating the Palace
Upon returning to the palace Karol asks if the Council was important with Estelle giving an educated answer wih Rita simplifying it to say that they represent the empire's interests. She then asks how they get inside and Estelle asks if there was a back entrance. The party then hears the voice of the old man that was in prison with Yuri back in Zaphias. They turn around and notice him with him shushing Estelle informing him that if she screamed they would get caught. Estaelle asked who the old man was and he said that he and Yuri were friends, with Yuri denying meeting him. The old man then reminded him about the short time they had in prison with Yuri puzzled as to how he knew his full name and he revealed his source: one of Yuri's many wanted posters. Karol then asked who the old man was and he told them to call him Raven for the time being. Both Rita and Yuri were rather suspicous of him until he tells them as to how they could get in. Rita seemed skeptical until Yuri remembered him pulling a similar trick to help him out of the castle in Zaphias, and Estelle thinking they could trust him with Yuri hoping so as well. At the gate, the party soon realized they were set up as Raven told the guards where they were hiding and headed off. Everyone but Yuri was shocked to find out Raven double-crosed them, making Rita furious and going after him. Rita then unleashes her magic on the guards knocking them out and allowing her to blow off steam in the process with Karol wondering what they should do next. Yuri tells them they should go inside since the guards were taken care of, however he tells them they couldn't go in through the front door and see if they can get in through the side. They find Raven, who takes the left elevator up, but the others take the right elevator which lead them to the dungeon.

Once inside Rita was furious that the party could not use the elevator to get back up. Estelle was overcome by the horrible stench and Karol cold smell it as well. Yuri identified the smell as blood and rotting corpses and wonders if Ragou was into raising monsters as well as torturing townspeople. Rita replied he could as he had Rhybgaro. Suddenly, they hear the voice of a child in the next room leaving Karol to finally ask where they were. Estelle wanted to know who the person was in the next room. They find out it was Teagle and Kellas' missing son, whom everyone in the party was relieved to see alive. Estelle reassures him that everything will be all right and asked what happened. The boy explained that the magistrate brought him to the dungeon because his parents could not pay their taxes. Karol wondered if this was the child Teagle and Kellas were talking about and Estelle thought it was horrible. After looking around Karol wondered if the monsters have done so much and the boy wanted to go home. Estelle reassures him everything was okay and asks for his name to which he replies as Pauly. Yuri tells him to be brave and he will see his parents soon, to whch he does and they help him out.

After heading to what appeard to be a dungeons entrance, they come face to face with a nobleman who wondered if the part were more food for his pet monsters. Yuri asked if he was the feared magistrate Ragou whom everyone feared and said he had some bad hobbies. Ragou replied by answering his question, meaning his basement and that only he could understand the pleasure he gets from such things. He adds that the party was like the the members of the council: they bore him to death and never let him enjoy himself and it was his privilege of his position to relieve him of his boredom with the help of the townspeople. Estelle argues with his viewpoint saying that he doesn't mean that boredom wasn't the only reason to do the horrible things he has done. Insulted, Ragou states he should get Rhybgaro calling the party new toys and that the monster would put on a good show, insisting none of the party members would live long enough to see it. However, Yuri tells him they already took care of the beast and Ragou was shocked to hear that at first but tells them that with more money he would be able to replace the monster. Estelle then berated him and he was more shocked than before as he recognized the young lady. With no effort Yuri then used his sword to knock down the cell doors, scaring the frightened magistrate and causing him to call people to arrest the towns liberators. Yuri then pointed out as Ragou was running off that the guards will surround them if they do not finish what they came to do. Rita was about to cast a spell until Yuri told her to stop with Rita wondering if it would be enough of an emergency for the knights to respond to and Yuri saying it was too son and they needed evidence, particularly the blastia controlling the weather.

The party manages to find the blastia and Rita decides to check it out, indicating the blastia was patched together with different formulas saying it could manipulate the weather and asking how they could use it like that reminding her of the barrier blastia at Ehmead Hill and the people who had no respect for what they were working with. Estelle then said that the blastia was just what they needed for evidence and asked Rita if she could finish it later with Rita saying she needed to check a few more things on the blastia. Yuri reminded her that they still needed an emergency for the knight to respond to. Estelle came up with a lame idea for breaking something that was not valuable and Karol and Rita go on a destruction spree with Rita setting the palace on fire explaining the knights needed a real reason to show up like a fire with Estelle not agreeing to the plan of random destruction. Ragou manages to catch them destroying his residence, but he was not alone. He ordered the mercinaries to capture the intruders but was very specific as to make sure Estelle was not hurt. Karol recognizes the mercinaries as members of the Blood Alliance guild. The party manages to fight back but Rita could not help herself until Yuri stops her reminding her that they can not be caught when the knights show up. Rita was sure that Flynn would not respond so quickly, unfortunately he and his party arrive sooner than expected. He offered to help the magistrate. Suddenly, the Dragon Rider burst throught the window. Flynn, Sodia and Witcher tried to stop the mysterious rider but it was no use and the rider used the spear to slash apart the blasta core, ultimately destroying it infuriating Rita. Estelle was surprised to see the Dragon Rider in the flesh. Furious, Rita tried to attack the Dragon Rider but failed. The dragon then breathed fire for the rider to cover the escape. In the confusion, Ragou escaped with the party hot on his trail.

Once the got outside Rita vows revenge against the Dragon Rider whom she calls the "Dragon Freak" for destroying the blastia, even though Karol pointed out it was not hers. Estelle wonders why someone like the Dragon Rider would destroy blastia, and Yuri said he would like to answer it but there were bigger problems that needed to be taken care of, but before that Yuri asked Pauly if he could go back to Teagle and Kellas by himself and Pauly asked if Yuri and his friends were going after Ragou to which they answered yes to each others question. Estelle was still shocked to know that Ragou was capable of such crimes and was reminded by Yuri about how bad the empire had been for the whole trip and Karol reminded the party that Ragou was escaping on his ship, all without realizing that without the blastia, the weather became nice again.

The Core Thief Revealed
The party persued Ragou all the way to to a secret dock and everyone managed to board the ship. Once on board Rita found a treasure chest containing blastia cores leaving Karol to wonder why there were so many cores. Rita claimed that she had no idea, and not even the laboratory had that many with Estelle wondering if it were connected to the core thief with Yuri saying it could be. Karol was confused as he thought that the true culprit was a huge man with one eye which didn't fit Ragou leaving Yuri to conclude that Ragou might not be the only guilty party involved and wondering the the aque blastia from the lower quarte was in there with Rita saying it was not as the cores were not the right size. The party soon finds themselves surrounded by more merecenaries who Karol confirms are members of Blood Alliance and they were one of the five master guilds.

After dealing with the guild members, the group comes across the man behind the core thefts who knocks Karol aside. He wondered if Ragou ran from the party saying that he was scared of a group of children. Yuri then came out of hiding and asked if he was the one responsible for having thieves bring all the cores to him with him saying maybe he was and tried to attack Yuri but he dodged it. The man was impressed with Yuri's skill and bravery wishing he was in Blood Alliance to which Yuri replied saying he was flattered. The man then says that he had to watch out for men like Yuri as it upset the balance of his guild and it was not personal. Ragou then told the man, who he called Barbos, to dispose of the party but he said that he did all the work that he paid him, the Knights will be on the boat soon and he would not want to be followed by them and escapes with him. Ragou then let it slip that someone was inside the ships cabin, but had Zagi, the assassin Yuri and Estelle met at the castle, take care of Yuri and his friends. and escaped on a lifeboat with Barbos. Zagi then came out and saw Yuri and was happy to see him again, Yuri and Estelle however were not as thrilled to see him again after they recognized him. Soon, the boat was being fired upon but Zagi didn't care as long as he got to play with Yuri and his friends saying that he has to kill someone. As he lashed the boat Yuri pleaded him to easy on him but he didn't care.

The result of the battle left Zagi with an injured left arm and in the aftermath the ship was burning and Yuri complimenting him on the fight. But Zagi said he retreated and he will not forget Yuri and that he will kill you. As he was laughing, he was blown away by an explosion and the ship began to sink. Yuri told everyone in the party to get in the water but before anyone could dive in Yuri heard a voice coming in from the cabin. Yuri goes in to save the person with Estelle trying to stop him but Rita tells her to jump. The ship sinks and everyone was alright. Estelle was worried about Yuri until he surfaced with a young man who was trapped in the cabin. Estelle immediately recognized the young man as Ioder causing Rita to wonder who he was. Karol then noticed a boat and on it was Flynn who spotted the party and Ioder. Flynn wasted no time in saving the party and with that the boat headed to Capua Torim.

Trivia

 * There is a dungeon in this town known as "Port Capua Nor, Ragou's Residence" and it is described as a secret room that exists beneath Ragou's manor. In addition to that, monsters run loose here.

Told you it was long.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 23:59, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Hunter Artes
Hi. First of all, did you find out what Aspio's title is? Second, I would like to apologize for not realizing that in Radiant Mythology Eagle Shot and Sonic Bash had their animations switched. That was rather confusing for me.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 22:06, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll add all the unnecessary Aspio titles soon. Moviebaby (talk) 16:47, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much. BTW, I just got to Capua Torim. Took me four or five times to get the fourth secret mission. Tell you what, I'm gonna make you a check list of every secret mission in Vesperia. All you have to do is check off every mission you have done so far: 1. Defeat Zagi while protecting Estellise. 2. Knocked over the Goliath monster by attacking it while it charged X BUSTER. 3. Use Billybally plants to stun Gattuso. 4. Lure Zagi to a side of the ship and knock him overboard. That's all I got so far, you done any of these? BTW, this is a bit teadious for me but I'm writing location articles as I play Vesperia, updating them if necessary, including the ones here when I get to another part of the story in the same location. Neat huh. You should see what I'll have for Dahngrest, you know, for after Keiv Moc.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 19:55, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

I'm fully aware of all the secret missions. Moviebaby (talk) 23:38, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, right. How stupid of me to ask you that. Anyway, in terms of progress I made it to Caer Bocram. I bet you're already on part 2 now and are on your way to Heliord. Speaking of, when the time comes to make the the article on Heliord should we include all the scenes from part two meaning should we add how, individually, Estelle, Judith and Karol seduce the guard and how, individually, Yuri and Karol check out Rita's commotion?

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 09:13, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

Possibility
I just wanted to tell you, yesterday, I made a facebook account. I sent a message to here: http://www.facebook.com/tales?ref=stream Hopefully we'll get some more Tales of Xillia info from them.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 01:35, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for the flood.
Sorry for the flood of messages from me, but with Gamergirlz gone I feel like you're the only one I can talk to. Anyway, let me show you what articles I have come up with: Deidon Hold is a town located north of Zaphias in Tales of Vesperia. It is a strong rock fortress built to protect the Empire from monsters in the plains and serves as a checkpoint between Zaphias and Halure.

History
The party first travels here to head to Halure. Once they enter they find a local merchant who explains to the group about Weapon Skills. Estelle explains what weapon skills are to Yuri Lowell and how the group can benefit from them from a book she was reading. The merchant then gave the book to Estelle as a gift saying she will make more use of it than he will.

Just as they were about to leave, a bell rang indicating monsters were about to charge the fortress. Just as the soldiers were about to close the gate a woman exclaimed there were people on the other side. Yuri, Estelle and Repede decide to help out and save the people and did so before the gate would be closed on them. The trio were thanked by the people of the town but they soon encountered two men who were mad because they wanted to kill the monsters and decided to avoid them.

Afterwards they were greeted by the woman who introduced herself as Kaufman, leader of Fortune's Market, who offered them to work for her, however Yuri refused saying it wasn't his style. Kaufman complemented on Yuri's quick wits and insight and replied saying she loved a good deal even more. She explained the situation to the trio saying that a large monster known as the Lord of the Plains and his minions were stampeding since it was the time of year to do so, so going out through the gate was considered impossible.

Yuri asked her if they could get a barrier but she said it would require asking the empire and as a guild leader who has had it with the way the empire ran things she did not want to ask them for one. He then asked her if there was another way, calling out a bluff when she said she didn't know and as the leader of a guild that specializes in worldwide item distribution she should know another way around. She told him to head to Quoi Woods since it was much safer. With this information, the trio took their leave. Deidon Hold

Halure is a town located north of Deidon Hold in Tales of Vesperia. The town is famous for having a barrier blastia that was fused together with a tree and the flowers that bloomed there were a beautiful sight to see.

History
The party first travels here to find Yuri Lowell's friend, Flynn Scifo. Upon their arrival, they find that the barrier is weak. Karol Capel explained that just before the tree blooms its flowers the barrier has to weaken. He then saw someone and ran off leaving Yuri and Estelle behind. Estelle goes to heal the wounded with her powers and is thanked by the mayor. The trio encounter Karol, who was heartbroken because his friend who he wanted to show the flowers to left. Yuri, Estelle and Repede then head to the tree and the mayor explains that the tree is dying for an unknown reason. They soon see Karol, who explains the reason for the current state of the tree: the soil around the tree had been tainted with monster blood, causing the tree to be poisoned. He also explained that to cure it he would need a panacea bottle. When the party tried to get one the shopkeeper said they were sold out but if he had the ingredients he could make one. Karol said to make a Panacea Bottle he would need a Luluria Petal, a Nia fruit and an Eggbear Claw, so Yuri and Estelle decided to get the ingredients.

After obtaining them, they go back to the shopkeeper, who explained the process of Item Synthesis and made them the bottle. When they tried to use the bottle on the tree it worked, though not well enough. Estelle then pleaded to the tree, causing the soil to be purified and the tree healthy again reactivating the barrier. Everyone was impressed by Estelle's miracle but Yuri had to cut it short as he noticed Zagi and the red-eyes in hot pursuit of them. They bid farewell to the mayor and ran to Aspio.

The party returned with their new traveling partner Rita Mordio, who wanted to see the blastia. The Mayor informed them that Flynn had alreay left and said he was surprised to see the barrier fixed. He also said that he left a letter written on the back of a wanted poster Yuri's arrest with a bounty of 5,000 gald, in which Flynn said he would wait for him in Nor Harbor. Afterwards, Yuri found Rita investigating the barrier and had a friendly talk about Estelle. As they were about to leave he sees Estelle surrounded by LeBlanc, Adecor and Boccos forcing her to return to Zaphias. Yuri stooped and battled them, learning about the power of Over Limit in the process. After defeating them they notice the red-eyes chasing them and Yuri informed LeBlanc that it was a knights job to protect the people. Though LeBlanc had a duty to arrest Yuri, he knew he was right and had to stop the red-eyes from hurting innocent people, giving Yri and his friends time to escape. Halure (So far for me.)

Ehmead Hill is a dungeon located on the eastern part of Illycia, south of Aspio in Tales of Vesperia. The area consists of ruins located above and below the surface. It was once a sacred shrine, but in present time it is where many blastia have been discovered, and many citizens of the world do not know about the underground level.

History
The party first travels here to help Rita Mordio investigate the area, while Yuri Lowell is suspicious of her actions. They find a secret entrance that leads to underground ruins and dive further in, with Estelle admiring Rita for being so impulsive.

They soon find countless blastia with no cores in them. Rita explains that blastia and cores are excavated seperately. They find one intact with a core already inside. Rita gives Yuri a Sorcerer's Ring to activate the blastia by shooting out concentrated aer, unknowingly activating several golems that deal with unwanted guests. After defeating the golems, the party then learns of the aspects of surprise and advantagous encounters and continue forward. Eventually the find a giant blastia in the shape of a monster and Rita finds the core missing. They soon spot a man posing as a mage from Aspio, but Rita calls him out saying that if he didn't know who she was he wasn't from Aspio. The man then inserts the core he took back into the blastia, activating it to deal with Yuri and his friends. After defeating the blastia, Rita regretfully pulls out the core, deactivating it.

Eventually they catch up with the man, who turned out to be a thief. He explained that a man named Dedecchi stole countless core from Zaphias and was told to give them to a giant man with one eye. Rita knocks the thief unconscious and says that she will inform the city guards to pick him up. With this new information, Yuri and his friends leave the ruins.

Trivia
Shaikos Ruins
 * There is an area that is only accessable after Tarquaron rises.

Ehmead Hill is a dungeon located on the northern part of Illycia in Tales of Vesperia. The area is rather short as it is merely a path to Capua Nor.

History
The party first travels here to head to Capua Nor, where they might find Flynn Scifo. Upon arrival, Karol Capel notices that a barrier that was supposed to be in their vicinity was gone. He told them Nan, a friend of his from his guild, told him about the barrier in the area. He and Rita Mordio decide to go on ahead and check out the situation, leaving Yuri Lowell, Estelle and Repede behind.

They come across a destroyed blastia and Rita decides to check it out. Karol comes back and tells them the one responsible for destroying the blastia was someone riding a flying dragon and the locals called this person the Dragon Rider. Rita then got in trouble with knights over an argument about a strange blastia formula. Karol tried to cause a distraction and succeeded but Yuri got the attention of one of the knights. He ran over to Rita and knocked the knight holding her unconscious giver her the opportunty to escape. Estelle apologized to the knights on the behalf of Yuri and his friends.

Then the party goes down an alternative route and scolds Rita for not thinking things through. They soon hear the voices of LeBlanc, Adecor and Boccos, demanding Yuri and Estelle come out. When Rita wanted to know who they really were Yuri said he will explain things to her later. They find Karol who tells them since the path is blocked they go down the beast trail. Rita gets angry at the person who destroyed the barrier blastia.

Along the way the party notices strange flowers that cause people to become dizzy when the pollen is inhaled and Rita couldn't help but use Karol as a test subject. As a result Karol got dizzy and with Estelle's healing artes unable to work they had to wait until he was back to normal. After Karol regained his senses the party continued. Near the top they come across a fearsome Gattuso, a wolf-like monster who attacks without warning. After defeating the monster, the group heads to a spot where they could see the ocean and they could not believe their eyes on how vast it was. After a brief yet inspired conversation, Yuri and his friends continued onward. Near the end of the trail the party finds a camping set and instructions on how to use it. Afterwards, they continue onward to Capua Nor. Ehmead Hill (So far for me, haven't gotten to the part it was destroyed yet.)

Capua Torim, also known as Torim Harbor and known by the official title "The Port Town Capua Torim" is a port town located on the far eastern side of the continent of Tolbyccia in Tales of Vesperia. It is home to the headquarters of the guild Fortune's Market. It is described as a port on the second largest continent, Tolbyccia and is considered a rival to Ilyccia's Capua Nor because guilds have a strong influence.

First arrival
The party arrives by boat thanks to Flynn Scifo. Ioder thanked Yuri Lowell and his friends for saving him but Rita wanted to know exactly who he was. Estelle was to nervous to talk about it but Flynn said he made arrangements at the inn and they will talk more about it there. With Yuri agreeing to the terms Flynn and Ioder take their leave.

Once inside the party is surprised to see Ragou, who pretends he did not know them. Yuri thought of this as a convenient time for amnesia, seeing right though his lies, however he denies it even further. Flynn steps in telling him that the party were winesses to his crimes, but he counters by saying it was an imposter trying ro ruin his good name and the events at Capua Nor were upsetting. Rita claimed he was lying and told him about the people he fed to monsters. Flynn was backed into a corner when he asked who was more right: a band of scoundrels or a member of the Council. He had no choice but to let him go, which infuriated everyone, especially Yuri. Rita Mordio angrily asked who he thought he was and asked who Ioder was, with Yuri telling her to calm down.

Estelle tells everyone that Ioder was a prince and a candidate for the imperial throne. Karol Capel thought she was joking but she was quite serious about the fact. Ioder then added that he was just one of the candidates, with Flynn adding that he is the rightful heir to the throne after the previous emperor passed on, which Karol was shocked to hear and Ioder confirmed. Yuri thougt it was interesting that an heir to the throne was captured by a magistrate. Estelle was interrupted just as she was about to put her opinion on the matter by Yuri who said it was too much for public consumption and it had somethig to do as to why she left the castle. Yuri adds that he does not want to have anything to do with an empire whose people suffer in plain sight, with Flynn wondering what he had changed by turning his back on such an empire and adding that they needed laws made by the government to ensure people can live peaceful lives. But Yuri rebuttled saying it was those same laws that let a corrupt man like Ragou walk out the door to their room without having to pay the price and Flynn reminded him that it was because of things like that that the two became knights to change things like the laws and if they couldn't make it happen by yelling about it they would have to gain honor and trust and fix the empire from within. Yuri was furious about being reminded about it asking if it was ok to stand around while cruel officials fed children to monsters, and to look the other way when the citizens of the lower quarter were being bled dry by taxes and saying it was because he could not do anything that he quit being a knight. Flynn then asked him if anything had changed because he quit and how it was any different before he joined the knights. Furious, Yuri left with Karol right behind him, however he hesitated. Flynn said he did it again, saying he only wanted Yuri to move on with his life. He then apologized to Estelle for an embarassing scene. Ioder asked what Estelle was going to do next and she asked if it was all right to go with Yuri with Flynn asking why. She answered by saying she felt like so much had changed during her travels with Yuri like the empire and the world and she had changed as well. Flynn understood where she was coming from and asked Karol to tell Yuri to take care of her. Estelle asked if it was really all right with Flynn answering that he wold do it himself but his current duties will not allow it and as long as she was with Yuri, she will be safe, revealing he believes in him, no matter what. Rita then butts in saying that if they did not hurry they could lose Yuri.

Yuri was still angry after hearing what Flynn said to him knowing that nothing changed since he quit. After calming down he decided to look for clues on the blastia core and found Raven, who was enjoying the atmosphere. He was surprised to see Yuri who wondered if there was something else he should say but he could not think of it. Yuri said that the deceived have better memories than the deceiver, with Raven saying he was terribly misunderstood and Yuri telling him to see a doctor for his tendency to cause trouble for others and Raven saying that Yuri should get his foul mouth checked. Yuri told him that if he did not stop goofing around the knights would throw him back in prison but he said the knights were too busy to bother him and provides him with some information about a rough-looking guild moving to the nothwest not long ago. and that the knight could not turn a blind eye to them. Yuri asked if it was the Blood Alliance but Raven was not sure. He also asked what he was doing at the magistrates palace and Raven told him he was looking for an apatheia. Curious, Yuri wondered what it was with Raven telling him it was like a really strong core and that he heard it was there but the information was not legit. Yuri's friends then find him and Raven, who Rita was not too happy to see. He left before she even got the chance to beat him up prompting Karol to ask why Yuri let him get away which he answered he was misunderstood. Though Rita was upset at the fact he got away Yuri said going up agains him was a waste of energy. As Estelle tried to catch up he told he she could take a break but then they had to go and follow the Blood Alliance to get back the blasia core for the aque blastia in Zaphias' lower quarter. When Karol asked where they should go next, Yuri answered that a shady group was headed northwest. Karol contemplated on the matter saying that the only city there was one that was destroyed in an earthquake. Estelle wondered what they could be doing in a place like that with Yuri sayng it was worth checking out.

Trivia
Capua Torim (So far for me.)
 * In the Playstation 3 version of Tales of Vesperia, this is the hometown of the exclusive character Patty Fleur.

I'd like you to give them a glance over and let me know what you think of them. They're very detailed so it might take you a while, if you'd like. Again, I apologize for cluttering your talk page with stuff like this.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 18:51, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

If you're sorry, why do you keep doing it? This is a lot of content. Obviously, the issue is not length, but it would take me hours to proof and edit all of this. I simply do not have that sort of time on my hands, nor do I feel like devoting myself to such a task. I'm trying to be as nice as I can when I say this: please do not publish anymore articles on my talk page. This is not the purpose of this wiki, or any other wiki for that matter. I should not have to do this. A successful contributor should be able to make edits solely and effectively. I am disregarding all of this. I have other priorities. Moviebaby (talk) 01:57, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

I understand. Then again, it was stupid of me to post all these articles at once. In terms of progress, I beat the Dreaded Giant and got the achievement for his secret mission and I'm almost finished the Caer Bocram article. Besides, I think we need to add more detail to the Zaude, Tarquaron, Aspio and Dahngrest articles. With Xillia 2 out you probably are going to focus more on that than Vesperia. Well, just wanted to let you know that. You know, can't make new pages until existing ones are perfect. You're probably at Mt. Temza by now.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 10:34, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

I'm not concerning myself with Xillia 2. Like I said, I have other priorities, which at the moment includes expanding Vesperia-related things. Plus, I believe it would be wise to allow Mayu to create and fix all of that when she is able to do so. All of these other users attempting to "help" are digging their own graves with warnings. By the way, I just made it to the Atherum. Moviebaby (talk) 16:10, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

Atherium... Was that the temple you battle Schwann or the forest with one of the Giganto Monsters? I'm just asking because if you're gonna battle Schwann you're gonna have a heck of a time trying to attack him after he uses his mystic arte cause of distance and everything. Btw, did you get the Mother's Memento key item? You're gonna need that for when you battle Estelle. And you're way more ahead than I am. I'm just finishing Caer Bocram now, the article and in the game. Scratch that, I'm now in Heliord. Gonna get me some new stuff. See ya.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 16:37, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

No, the ghost ship Atherum, and yes, I'm fully aware. I HAVE PLAYED AND BEATEN THIS GAME BEFORE. Moviebaby (talk) 16:51, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

Oh yeah. Sorry. This is the second time I played through the game from start to finish. And you and Mayu are gonna be mad at me about this but I posted up the Caer Bocram article I wrote. You and Mayu can delete it if you want.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 17:04, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

Actually: I deleted it myself and had the page marked for deletion so you don't have to do so. I appreciate your honesty and I'm glad you said the information I gathered was impressive, and I am grateful for that by the way. The article has been marked for deletion due to the gramatical flaws, good thing I saved it for review.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 17:15, November 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * "Impressive" used in this case is not a compliment. Read the word etymologically. It is so weighty that it presses upon you. It is a weight that WE DO NOT NEED. Stop warping Moviebaby's comments as if they are supportive of you, as many of these recent words are trying to tell you to stop. I'm just taking a more direct approach by telling you to get the fuck out. And yes, that brainwashed user on that obviously low standard wiki you manage is right. This wiki does not deserve your shit edits, nor do we want them. And since you KNOW you are doing something wrong but do it anyway just to test our limits, this is why you don't deserve to continue working here. Give me a reason to ban you. Just do it. Because the next ban for you is one month.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 23:10, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

How about a challenge then? A quiz: 100 questions on all things Tales related. If I can answer all of them correctly, you have to let me add whatever I want, whenever I want, however I want and you can not complain about it. If I get even one question wrong, you can ban me from this wiki, permenantly. Deal?

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 23:54, November 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * As a veteran tabletop gamer from the 2nd Edition AD&D era, your idea of "challenge" offends me, as you are setting the parameters, conditions, and results without dialogue. But this wiki isn't for playing around, so fuck you. You shouldn't be incentivized to leave if you are a person of good moral standing. You would leave of your own free will, happily and forever, when you realized that every edit you make here sends us backwards instead of forwards. Did you ever realize that? Because I'm sure I told you this dozens of times but I can never be sure if you actually paid attention to it because you still go about doing bad things that you KNOW are bad and then play the victim card when the true victim to your crime of being here at all is ASELIA WIKI.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 00:10, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

I try to be civil but apparently that is not enough. So HOW ABOUT I COME OVER TO YOUR HOUSE AND SMASH YOUR COMPUTER TO PIECES SO YOU NEVER HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ANYTHING EVER AGAIN?!

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 00:20, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

Winxfan, you are acting childish, and that last comment was on the border of being a threat. Moviebaby (talk) 00:38, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, that was no threat. It was a promise. I try but apparently it's not enough. I am an admin at Winx Wikia. I don't have to take this from anyone! You wanna kick me off for being me, FINE! Just remember, Mayu will have her day, the day her computer stops working and she will never edit anything again.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 00:45, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

Definitely a threat. I'd imagine this results in an extended ban. Moviebaby (talk) 00:48, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

I'll be fine wth that, in fact, Mayu, if you can hear me, block me forever.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 00:53, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

I don't believe admins can permanately ban someone, but if you're leaving on your own volition, then there would be no need for her to. Oh well, back to my priorities. Moviebaby (talk) 01:06, November 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * Winxfan, I really don't care if you are an admin anywhere else, as it has no bearing on how you are the most malicious editor on this wiki who deliberately posts crap and then whines about things not going the way you want. I can give you all of my qualifications as a leader of this or that, but unlike you, I keep my real life and each of my online identities distinctly separate because they are not relevant among each other, and no one needs to know outside of the communities where the roles I have are needed. This wiki is not _____ or _____ or everything else I do, and so comparisons of policies, actions, roles, and everything else absolutely do not matter. You obviously feel the need to aggrandize yourself, however, and perhaps you're just ego-tripping over yourself.


 * If you feel you don't have to take this from anyone, you were given the prerogative to disappear so that it would be true. But you didn't, so you get what you deserved. You are the worst thing that ever happened to the wiki and you know it, but your mind probably construes it in the opposite way, as if you have a mental disease that prevents you from seeing the truth. As you have threatened someone with personal harm, regardless of who it is, I finally have my reason to ban you.


 * Remember, everything that I have said, all of my anger and rage, is greatly restrained and the depths of my hatred extends beyond what you can imagine. But I have morals. And you have just proved that you do not. I told you this before, the day I stop working on Aselia regularly is the day that I meet an untimely car accident or something like that. If it happens, so be it, as long as you cease to exist as a factor on this wiki. Only then can I rest in peace and die with a... well not a smile, but a smirk on my face. Because it means Aselia can finally move forward in greater strides again with you gone.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 04:13, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry again
If you are angry with me, I really am sorry. To atone for my sin of giving you more work I posted the Caer Bocram article for deletion. BTW, as you're playing through Tales of Vesperia, are you taking notes on certain things to use as article material? I'm just curious because I'm jotting down every detail for the Vesperia locations. I'm also curious as to who you used for the seduction scene in Heliord and the Knight disguise scene as well. I'm gonna choose Karol for both cause it would be hilarious. Speaking of Heliord, I'm there now, getting material for the article. I'm also completing the Sidequests as I encounter them., but in my articles I never mention them, well, except for the Brionac moment in my Caer Bocram article. Anyway, I am sorry for taking too much of your time. But it is nagging me that the Force Field and Regenerate arte articles are incomplete. Once I get info on those artes I'll be sure to post them. Well good luck, and let me know when you get to Nordipolica.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 20:32, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

-sigh- Just do whatever you want. I will fix things when I have time. However, I have priorities at the moment. Moviebaby (talk) 21:27, November 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * DON'T TOUCH MY PRECIOUS INDIVIDUAL ARTE PAGES.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 23:12, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

Just a question
I was reading the Guild Union when I noticed Kaufman was refered as "Mary Kaufman" the Mary is official since I don't recall it in the game. --Juan Ma (talk) 04:18, November 8, 2012 (UTC)

Mayu added that bit of information. I was completely unaware of it as well since it refers to her simply as "Kaufman" in the game. In other words, you would have to ask her because I'm not sure. Moviebaby (talk) 04:30, November 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Vesperia Perfect Guide, not sure if it's the 360 or PS3 version, but obviously written in Japanese. It's the same resource that revealed Duke Pantarei and Alexander Cumore. I now see the latter as Alexander von Cumore on some JP resources, so I need to recheck the screenshots that were taken years back by a TSF user to prove Duke and Cumore's full names. Ioder and Kaufman's full names are details that I saw on JP sites and derive from one of these Perfect Guides.


 * Edit - As I understand it, Alexei's last name is mentioned in the game, but for the record, in Japan, his name is rendered as Alexei Denoia, possibly intended to be Alexei de (di) Noia. Alexei's name was also written on the same spread that showed Duke and Cumore's names from that printed guide, alongside their character artworks.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 08:42, November 8, 2012 (UTC)

Bold
Hi, what was wrong with removing bold on the Shining Blue page? I checked the Aselia MoS beforehand and didn't see anything about bold use, so I referred to Wikipedia (article titles and little else). Checking the Aselia MoS again I still don't see anything about boldface use, so I was hoping you could clear that up— genuinely hoping, I'm pretty new to editing and don't want to step on any toes. Conn (talk) 23:19, November 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * The bolding is used mainly to emphasize significant terms as if they were page titles but don't need pages of their own. On image captions, it's really just a matter of consistency to bold the primary thing the image is supposed to represent, as in the images that depict artes which use captions that bold the arte name. On some pages, I'm also kinda concerned about the overuse of bold, when those cases can just use links-at-first-mention in the form of redirects, but overall it's not an issue to focus on.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 00:04, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

Exactly what Mayu stated. The bolding is not only used for the page title and alternative names for the page title; it is also used when emphasizing key terms that hold significance but lack the need for a page themselves. I am currently working my way through pages (slowly due to busy things irl), formatting this way for the sake of consistency throughout the wiki. As Mayu stated, this applies to image boxes as well, bolding and linking where necessary, something that I only recently began applying effectively. I do understand some pages have this issue of the overuse of bold, and I am currently (again, slowly) attempting to resolve this problem. The redirecting will help, to say the least, but again, as Mayu stated, it's not an issue to be overly-concerned with. However, when I find the time, I will work on including it in the MoS for future reference, which will state exactly what has been stated here.

Moviebaby (talk) 00:53, November 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the responses. I understand that the bold in the body is to emphasise key terms that don't quite 'qualify' for their own pages, which is why I left "Mainland", "Gadoria", "Rexalia" and "Crusand" all in bold. What I de-bolded was "Baltoga" and "Mt. Zeriques", "People of the Water" and "People of the Land", all things that are practically flavour text in the game itself, far from being key terms on-par with the country names. Is that still wrong?


 * As for the captions, I was (obviously) unaware of the reasoning behind bold in captions, and it makes perfect sense to me now. Consistency is good. Though if you don't mind me saying, there are still a couple I have a problem with: "… at the Bridge Plain" and "… on the Mainland": Bolding these strikes me as unnecessary flourish when the images are showcasing the flag of Rexalia and the locations of Gadoria/Rexalia, as well as making it less clear what is actually being emphasised.


 * (Sorry, I don't mean to make this a pet crusade or anything. I'll leave it alone in future.) Conn (talk) 02:15, November 28, 2012 (UTC)

People and places that do not require their own page are usually bolded. As you noticed, I de-bolded "People of the Water" and "People of the Land", placing them in quotations instead; however, on the Ferines and Orerines pages, these should be bolded to emphasize the "also known as" element we employ here. As I said, this is something I am currently attempting to resolve on all pages I come across for the sake of uniformity; however, being as it is not critical, it is not high on my priority list. I will look over the article again.

Moviebaby (talk) 04:11, November 28, 2012 (UTC)

Vesperia content
Hi there, I found something that you may find interesting. In the Japanese version of Tales of Vesperia they explain the origins of the Union and interesting facts of Dahngrest history. Here in this forum they posted part of the cutscenes and the script the English patch for the PS3 version where you could either read it or watch the video where they talk about the Pledge of the Union and everything else. --Juan Ma (talk) 02:55, December 4, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, thanks. Reading it now and will make changes accordingly. Moviebaby (talk) 03:58, December 4, 2012 (UTC)

What I'm talking about
I'm talking about the pic of Alice and Decus at Altamira. The one Ninaizawsum11 uploaded. When did that happen in the game?

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 19:23, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

I don't know. As I've stated before, I've never played the game. Just because you don't recall the particular instance doesn't mean it didn't happen. Obviously, there's a in-game shot of it. We can only assume it happened.

Moviebaby (talk) 19:50, December 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * If you look carefully on that image, specially you Winxfan1 since you have the game, you can notice that Decus and Alice are in Altamira at night, and that moment oddly resembles the scene of Emil and Marta before heading to the Ginnungagap, right? So why the similarity of these two events? Is because you can hack the game and replace some codes where you are capable to switch the character models. You can only switch Marta with Alice, Emil with Decus and your monsters with Tenebre. The hack only allows you to change the physical form of the characters, but you cannot use their techniques nor Mystic artes. Here you can see the hack in motion. For me that image should either removed from the article or to add a section explaining the hack. --Juan Ma (talk) 23:45, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for explaing that Juan. Saves a lot of time trying to figure it out.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 00:48, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

There is no solid evidence to suggest the image is fake. Granted, there is no source, but I'm not overly concerned with it. If the image is removed, it certainly won't be based on the ultimatums stated here.

EDIT: In other words, wait for Mayu to make a decision on the matter.

Moviebaby (talk) 04:31, December 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I've been without the net for a while, and a certain Pablo didn't help matters, if you're aware of international news. Anyway, if the image is a hack, then dammit Juan Ma for introducing an image to the wiki that is a fabricated lie. We only provide images for OFFICIAL things that exist within the game as played without the use of glitches or hacks, and manipulations such as this are not credible nor allowed on this wiki. I will delete the image shortly, and someone else can clean up the Alice page to remove the link. Juan Ma, remember that citations AND descriptions are necessary when you upload images, EVERY TIME, so that these things can be caught. If it's a hack, then say so, so that it can be deleted immediately. And now you are obliged to tell us every image that is hack-based so it will be deleted immediately as well.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 10:03, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

My recent activity
I have these saved on Wordpad you know. And I thought it would be safe there. I was wrong. The fact is some articles are incomplete, like Dahngrest or Mt. Roneal. And since the TotA anime page was a copy from Wikipedia I thought I could write episode articles for it to make it look less like a copy. Besides, I'm on part 2 in Vesperia and I'm about to get the boat. I take it you looked over said articles? and wonder what changes will be made to them. I'm only following the story and adding what is necessary. And I thought wiki's were a team effort, but I guess I was wrong. But if it means that much to you I'll get rid of them, except the Dahngrest extension. That is something you can work on.

First Arrival
Yuri Lowell and his companions first visit Dahngrest on their way to the forest of Keiv Moc, and Karol tells them that its his hometown. Yuri commented that the place was lively and Karol said that it was the second largest city in all of Terca Lumires with the largest city being Zaphias and Dahngrest was governed by the guilds. Yuri expected the place to be dark and dank, but Karol said that it was a prejudice people had abot the guilds and Estelle added that the the bad reputation of the Blood Alliance was to blame for it. Yuri then asked how they should find Barbos and Karol answered the best was was to check the Union. Estelle then quoted that the Union was a guild collective run by the five master guilds and Karol added they serve as the government of the city. Rita Mordioasked how it would work since the Blood Alliance was also one of the five master guilds and Yuri added that if they layed a hand on Barbos they would pick a fight with the Union as well. Karol said they will not know until they ask Don WHitehorse, the leader of Altosk and the Union. Yuri asked if they could meet him but Karol hesitated answering saying that they could not just meet him, but could not say no to Estelle and told them the Union Headquarters was in the northern part of town.

As they were heading to Union HQ, Karol gets spotted by some guild members who bully him after hearing he was kicked out of the Hunting Blades, But Yuri and the others defended him saying if the bullies were his friends he could do better than them. As a fight was about to break out the alarm sounded meaning monsters were approaching the city which explained Estelle feeling monster footsteps and Yuri claiming they brought an army. Karol comforths them by saying even if the monsters approach the barrier will keep them safe and the guilds take care of monsters outside the barrier. However, the city's barrier blastia fails due to sabotage by members of a shady group. Monsters soon swarm the city and Yuri is left wondering where they came from. Karol stated something was not right and Estelle backed him up saying the monsters were more aggressive than normal. After the first wave Rita complained that it was one wave of monsters after another. After the second wave, Yuri saved a woman from being killed by a monster. More were approaching and suddenly, an elderly yet skilled swordsman appeared and killed the monsters one by one. Yuri was impressed and wondered who he was and Karol told him that was Don Whitehorse himself. Everyone was relieved that the Don arrived. Flynn Scifo and his squadron arrived as well and Estelle was surprised to see him again. He and his brigade wanted to help but the Don refused to do so and told them to leave. Flynn inststed they stay to help, but the don told him that everyone in town left the empire of their own free will and joined a guild and they were not spineless enough to ask the knights for help. He told him it was the rules of the life they chose and they had to make sure those rules did not get broken. Yuri was inspired by the Don's words and the party aids the the Don, as well as various guilds and guild members, in protecting the city and its residents. Rita and Estelle suggested that they repair the barrier blastia, so the party headed to it.

Once they arrived they find that the guard was taken out and it was time Rita worked her magic. She ran to the controls of the barrier blastia and the rest of the party joined her and estelle alerted her of the shady people who would not allow her to fix it. After they beat the shady people, Rita was able to begin fixing the barrier blastia. Flynn arrived and said they had their hands full, leading Yuri to believe that the Don's lecture did not hold any meaning for him. He then asked about the repairs to the barrier blastia with Yuri saying it would depend on Rita. She then found an amplifier stating it was like the barrier blastia at Ehmead Hill. Yuri explained that the barrier disappeared when monsters attacked and that it could not be a coincidence that it happened at the same time to which Flynn agreedHe then asked if Flynn's appearance meant the guilds were tied with the empire's problems but Flynn said he did not know, which was why he came to check things out. Rita is then finished repairing the barrier blastia and the barrier works again. Afterward, the knghts decide to clear out the monsters outside the barrier saying that the guilds will not complain if they fought the monsters outside the city while party visits the Union's headquarters to find out about Barbos, only to discover by the doorman that the Don has gone in search for the attacking monsters' nest, seeking to eradicate the problem at its source. Deciding their best option is to return to the city later, the party departs and travels toward Keiv Moc, unknown to them, Raven was watching over them from the rooftops.

A New War
The party returned to Dahngrest and headed to Union Headquarters to speak with the Don. They find Flynn in his chamber and Raven returned to the Don's side. He was quite surprised to hear that Yuri and Flynn were old friends, as such Flynn was surprised that he and Yuri just met during the assault. With formalities aside, Yuri informed the Don about Barbos' actions. Flynn asked that because of the events surrounding Barbos, the Union would relinquish all ties with the Blood Alliance saying that other guilds began to follow his example, abusing blastia and disrupting the order of society. Flynn hoped that with the Don's assistance, they can stop the Blood Alliance once and for all. The Don said that Barbos had been testing his patience agreeing to Flynn's proposal. He then stated that if Barbos was not stopped, it could lead to a war between the Empire and the Guilds. The Don agreed that no one likes a war, saying that working together to stop Barbos will not be so bad. The Don gives Flynn his full support to stop Barbos.He then told one of his subordinates to send a message to Belius of Nordopolica to offer her aid in the coming battle. Things were beginning to look good until Flynn gave the Don a letter from Ioder that said that the empire would overlook the Union's responsibility in the Barbos affair if the Don were to be killed. Everyone was shocked to hear this. Flynn checked the letter and realized too late the letter was a fake one. This lead to the Don throwing Flynn in the dungeon. Estelle wanted to help Flynn but Yuri said that it would only make things worse. The Don then decided to declare war on the Empire and left. With that, the party decided to leave as well.

Yuri then pretended to drop his wallet and had to go back to Union Headquarters, leaving the rest of the group. His true motive was to see Flynn in the dungeon. He asked why he came with a letter of war and Flynn said it was the work of the red eyes and even if it was one of his subordinates who messed up he had to bear the responsibility. Yuri concluded that Ragou was behind this affair, which surprised Flynn who stated it was to cause a war between the guilds and the Knights, meaning that another false letter was sent to the knights. Yuri then freed Flynn from his cell and took his place. Not long after, the Don arrived and asked Yuri if he lost his mind for taking Flynn's place, and Yuri countered by saying that he got rid of his own guards on purpose. The Don then said he had a favor to ask of Flynn: To find who was really responsible for causing the chaos, indicating the Don knew the letter was fake. Yuri asked why he got everyone fired up for a war to which the Don answered that if he had not, Barbos and Ragou would not bother to watch and he had a reputation to maintain and if Flynn did not return, Yuri would die to which he is fully aware of. He then asked what made the Don start a guild in the first place and he responded it was because he could not protect things that were important to him by sy the laws of the empire and asked Yuri if he was happy not helping anyone that way and if he did not like the rules there were two choices: change the system or live free of the empire's rule. The Don said that Yuri would have to take responsibility for letting Flynn escape, but offered a way out saying that Barbos was in the city and he was going to ask Flynn to find him but gave the offer to Yuri. He left to find the others.

As Yuri was reunited with everyone else, the Don was preparing to go to war with the knights. Karol told them that Rita and Repede folloed the Blood Alliance and the others found them at the Shooting Stars Tavern. Inside Barbos was Ragou were discussing about a tower and Ragou did not receive any reports on it. He got angry not only that he did not say anything about the tower fortress but also using the Leviathan's Claw guild for help.Ragou took his leave warning him that evil people will get what they deserve, advice that would come back to haunt him later. The party soon arrived on the scene whom Barbos remembers. He tells them they were too late to stop the war from starting. Karol realized that it was part of his plan to overthrow the Don. Estelle asked that with the Knights gone who would protect the city, and Rita concluded with the Knights gone, the Council will step in and take over. As the war was about to start Flynn arrived with the real letters. The Don was pleased that Flynn came back and told him he would never let Yuri take the fall for a crime he committed. Angered that his plan failed, Barbos ordered one of his men to shoot Flynn, but Karol stopped him. Barbos then took the rifle and fired it at the party. Yuri told them to leave but Estelle told him it was too dangerous. Just as Barbos was about to fire another shot the Dragon Rider appeared. Rita wanted to settle the score with the rider but Yuri told told her it would have to wait. Barbos then pulled out another sword and used it to fly to his tower. Yuri then hitched a ride on the dragon and followed him.

The End of Ragou
Upon returning fron Ghasfarost, Yuri and the others notice the Knights have returned and have arrested Ragou, who protests by saying it is a plot by the Knights to destroy the Council. Estelle could not find Flynn anywhere. As they got closer, Ragou was still protesting telling the people of town that the Knights will overthrow them. Flynn steps in saying they would not do so stating that the Empire and the Union joined forces and Don Whitehorse and Ioder are discussing future plans and it would only be a matter of time before it the friendship is official. Ragou asks how this was possible as Alexei had other business to attend to and realized that Ioder was responsible. Estelle was finally relieved by the fact that with Ragou gone, the people of Capua Nor will not suffer anymore and swears to Yuri she will make sure a more kind-hearted person will be the next magistrate. Karol felt sad that Estelle would be leaving to go back to Zaphias but it was her duty as princess and a candidate for the throne. However Yuri deduced she did not want to return and asked if she made up her mind. She made up her mind and decided to return, stating she does not want anyone to worry about her, especially Flynn.

Later that evening, as Yuri was sleeping, Karol came in with some rather distressing news: Ragou used his power to reduce his charges and was going to get off with a minor drop in rank. He suggests they see Estelle about this outrage but Yuri tells him not to bother her. He heads to Flynn's camp to have a word with him. Flynn had a feeling he would see him and comes out to greet him in a new uniform, stating he had been promoted to Captain. Even though Yuri congradulated him, Flynn suspected that the promotion was not the only thing he wanted to talk about. They discuss about his crimes and were disgusted by the fact he should not pay for them because of the power he had. Yuri stated that Flynn will make great things happen as he climbs the ranks, however more people will suffer in the meantime. Yuri stated that the progess Flynn has made would be for nothing if he arrested him, that if his authority were higher than that of the Council then he would create a legal order that treats everyone equally and Yuri would do things his way.He asks him how to deal with villains the law could not touch and he answers by saying he was still trying to figure it out then Yuri leaves. Later that night, Ragou is seen paying more mercenaries and had to be more careful next time. Yuri came across him and was poised to kill him. Though he threatened and begged Yuri to spare him, his pleas fell on deaf ears as he was determined to stop him once and for all. As he tried to run away, Yuri slashed him in the back and he uttered Dein Nomos as his final words and he fell into the river. It was then that Yuri began to walk on an otherwise dark path. As he returned he noticed Repede sleeping outside and decided to keep his actions a secret from his friends.

A New Journey
The next day Karol was rather sad to see Estelle leave but she says that he and Rita can visit anytime since the treaty made it easier for guild members to enter the capital. A member of the council stated they should leave but Estelle promises that Ragou will be punished. The council member, however, states that Ragou had not been seen since last night but his whereabouts were being investigated. Rita was about to leave to check out the aer krene and said when she was done, she would pay a visit to the capital, which made Estelle very happy. She then asked Karol where he will go and he answered he will start a guild with Yuri, which sounded like a good idea to her. Karol asked if he could get Yuri so he could say goodbye to her, but told him not to bother him, but Karol did so anyway. Yuri didn't want to say goodbye to them since it would make it harder for them to leave.

Suddenly, a loud noise got his attention and Yuri and Repede went to see the cause. A giant, bird-like monster appeared from out f nowhere and flew around the sky, attacking the city. When Yuri asked what it was Karol had no idea, but they had to check it out. They find the knights worn out from battling the creature and Flynn tels him to protect Estelle. As she was healing an injured knight, the monster then senses the power she has and turned towards her. Witcher tried attacking it but it was to no avail, meaning the monster was heading towards her. Alexei soon arrived and ordered the knights to relay a message to the crew of the Heracles. Yuri and the others try to protect the princess. The monster then began to speak, calling Estelle an insipid poison that must be destroyed. As she was wondering what it was, it got shot and flew off to the source of the gunfire: a giant war machine. Yuri asked what it was to which Estelle answered it was the Heracles. Karol suggested that they leave to which Yuri agreed saying he would continue his journey and suggested to Estelle she should head to the capital but it was her decision. She decides to go with Yuri but as he complimented on her decision the Heracles fired a shot at the bridge, leaving Yuri, Estelle, Karol and Repede on one side cutting them off from the city.

They come across Judith who insists they keep going but they pull her out of harms way. The monster flies off toward the horizon. Flynn calls out to Yuri and Estelle, and she tells him she could not go back yet saying there were more things she needed to know. Flynn protested but She said that because the information of people suffering in Nor Harbor never reached the capital she must approach problems like this head on, something she realized during her travels which was why she had to continue her journey. Yuri tossed Flynn the core of the aque blastia from the lower quarter and told him to get it back as soon as possible. He also tells him he will not head back to Zaphias and kept his promise to start a guild with Karol and to give his best to the citizens there. Flynn was surprised about this but supported his decision. Karol was happy that Yuri finally agreed to start a guild with him. and the party of five take their leave. Outside the city, Judith wonders how far they will go and Yuri tells her they should go to Heliord.

Trivia

 * Upon arrival one of the townspeople explains why, during the daytime, the sky appears as if it was sunset: The air around the town is unstable refracting the sunlight and turning the sky red.
 * There was another guild called Clouds of Dawn, though the leader and members are unknown.
 * In the first half of Ragou and Barbos conversation everyone was mute, but after the war was foiled, everyone began talking.

If you have the time, look it over and try and condense this. After all, there's not much in the Dahngrest article to begin with. But I digress. Anyway, I'll just drop by every now and then to see how far you guys are progressing without me. Try and work on the Aspio and Tarqaron articles. BTW, I noticed you guys didn't touch the add on to the Force Field arte page. I just added the Vesperia description since, well, it was in Vesperia. Also, I'm glad you're handling this instead of you-know-who.

Update: All my work pages are gone and to answer your queston, I learned about them from a Pokemon Wikia user named Jazzi. I would also like to apologize for causing you trouble, and to thank both you and your friend for the official source of Judith being voiced by Megan Hollingshead.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 21:06, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

There's an official source for Judith's voice actor? This is news to me. I would still doubt if it's real because Judith just doesn't sound like Megan Hollingshead to me. I also have doubts about Estelle being voiced by Danielle Judovits. She sounds more like Eden Riegal to me. MabiEditor (talk) 22:14, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, that facebook picture album thing. There were pics of almost every character she voiced. There was Judith, Droite, there was even one of Noelle. I even saw one of Milla Maxwell. And about Eden Riegal, you mean the girl who voiced Rurichiyo in Bleach? Didn't sound like her much. Besides, Danielle did say she voiced Estelle in an interview. Can't argue with that.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 23:30, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

The Facebook page is apparently official, so we can assume so, yes.

Moviebaby (talk) 01:35, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

You know, it's nice to have civil conversations like this. But you know, it's actually kinda funny. When I first came here I thought "Was Megan really the voice of Judith?" and it affected so many articles since, but now. It's amazing. I just wish Janice Kawaye would take time out from her busy schedule to talk about her va career up till now. I really wish we could meet face to face, we could brainstorm ways to make the articles better and move on. Just a thought, but man it would be nice to meet you in person.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 02:14, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

Eh, I'm not so sure if the photos on her Facebook can be counted as official. It seems that some of them were posted on her wall by her fans. At the very least the Milla and Noelle pictures weren't posted by her, so the voice of Milla is still under speculation. We'll find out once we start hearing the English voices. So yeah, I don't think I'd count the Judith VA mystery solved just yet. I don't think Megan ever came out and said it was her. MabiEditor (talk) 03:02, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

@MabiEditor: We got a credited official source. Please don't ruin this for us.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 11:17, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

It will remain this way until proved otherwise. End of story.

EDIT: By the way, if you browse through her comments, you can see where she occasionally responds to her fans. She acknowledged several of those images, either by "liking" or commenting on them. If she didn't voice them, I'm sure she would have clarified, such as when one fan complemented her on voicing Nurse Joy and Officer Jenny from Pokemon. She stated Nurse Joy is one of her favorites but that the Officer Jenny thing is a crediting mistake that has become too widespread for her to properly correct the assumption.

Moviebaby (talk) 17:53, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I just don't know why people across the internet make these stupid mistakes. For instance, someone credited Lisa Ortiz as Bianca in Pokemon Heroes. I went and checked and it was actually Tara Sands. How can someone do that?

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 20:13, December 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * On this matter, I don't know how Facebook works since I never used it once and I don't have an account, under any of my aliases online or offline. If images can be uploaded onto a user's wall by others, then anything gained by way of image galleries on FB pages is automatically outlawed for being user-edited content. I leave it up to whoever wants to do the actual digging to determine this to be the case or not on the two or three FB pages that have been cited for voice actor identities. Remember that only official associations that a VA might have with a character can be credited, and user-uploaded anythings are automatically refused unless corroborated with something that is indeed valid. Delete or keep the FB links at your own discretion for now, but clarification on the FB image upload process is needed, and if anyone can upload images to one's wall, then the links must be removed permanently.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 10:11, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

Tales of Xillia
Hi, I need your opinion on something: I'm going to get a backward compatable PS3 for my birthday and was wondering will the Tales of Xillia game disc work on it? Because I don't want to get another one in case it does not.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 16:37, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I have no idea. Moviebaby (talk) 18:37, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, well, thanks anyway. Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 18:41, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

Hi there
Hi. I just finished an article on the Atherum. It's in Wordpad. Anyway, I'm now arriving at Nordopolica and I'm about to start the article on that. Don't worry. I'm saving these on Wordpad, but if I had your e-mail address I could e-mail my articles to you. So how far have you gotten in Tales of Vesperia? Just curious. Have you beaten the game yet?

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 00:53, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I keep my e-mail address confidential. I'm near the end of the game, but I've been highly preoccupied recently. I will resume playing when I find the time. Among finals week, being sick, and preparing for vacation, my time has not remained very open.

Moviebaby (talk) 21:30, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

Whoa. High school is tough. Believe me, I've been there. It's good you're getting a vacation. Don't wanna work yourself to death. I hope you're getting info for Vesperia location articles. I know I am. Good luck with finals, get well soon, and merry Christmas.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 00:22, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

Actually, I'm a junior in college and my finals just recently ended, but thanks.

Moviebaby (talk) 00:29, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 09:28, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

Manor of the Wicket?
Hey. Sorry about the Weasand of Cados article and it not being up to snuff. I didn't mean for that just to get your attention but there is something you should know: In the Tales of Vesperia Locations template, the word Wicked in Manor of the Wicked is spelled as Wicket. When you have time, do you think you can fix it? Also there were certain details that had to be added. For instance, how did Judith know about the desert town when no other member of the party had been there? Answer: she traveled there with Ba'ul. Also, me posting my articles on talk pages was the exact reason why I did not want to get in trouble with you, Mayu or anyone else. So that they can be looked over and tweaked before being posted. There was more in the Weasand of Cados. I don't remember when it happens but I think the Flynn Brigade sets up a blockade to prevent the part from reaching Nordopolica.

Just thought I should tell you that. Also, The Forest of Keiv Moc article will be next. And there should be no contraction words in it as per the MoS and if there were past tense words, it would only be because it already happened in places they have already been. So I'm only posting the shortest articles I wrote. Like Ghasfarost or Shaikos Ruins. Meaning I have some work to do: changing some if not all the words to present tense. Aside from that, how do you think you did in your finals? I honestly had no idea you were a junior in college. Pretty impressive. No wonder you're so good. Anyway, just wanted to touch base, and to tell you I'm relieved that the 2012 prediction did not happen. Otherwise we wouldn't have this conversation.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 11:33, December 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hint: Don't post anything, ever. Then and only then will you not get in trouble with anyone here, because then and only then will we not have to divert our attention to cleaning up the vomit you keep throwing up all over the wiki, published articles or not. Simply put, stop posting your articles anywhere except on your computer, so that they stay there forever where we won't have to see them. It's bad enough that you're telling us you are posting this crap solely to get attention, which you do not deserve yet you manage to receive in spite of the attention that is needed elsewhere on this wiki. So -stop- diverting our attention and -stop posting-.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 12:17, December 22, 2012 (UTC)

Mayu I was simply telling Movie about the error in the Vesperia Locations article. And I do not do these things to get attention. As I speak I am working on the Keiv Moc article I'm writing so it fits the MoS standards. In fact it's done. It's not like I do this on purpose. I apologize for this. I do not handle negative criticism very well.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 14:41, December 22, 2012 (UTC)

Another thing: your articles are full of unnecessary and boring content. I was forced to remove the petty "he said, she said" sentences. Learn to summarize. I was very surprised to find past-tense verbs and contractions, after I have repeatedly told you not to include these in your writing. I also had to specify who was doing what over and over again. Always ensure clarity for the reader.

Moviebaby (talk) 16:29, December 22, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, well, I'm greatful for that. I'm also greatful that the error in the ToV Locations template was corrected. The who was doing what thing is easy if there are just two people involved, but it would be kinda pointless. Thanks for the tip. Though it was just one contraction and a few past-tense verbs it shows I'm learning. And the article is not big. Believe me you would not want to read my Capua Nor article, it is very detailed, and I will never post it and leave to you, you know, when you have time, though mine is more complete in terms of Xbox I am lacking on info for PS3, since Patty Fleur was introduced in this town. And the party saves her on the Fiertia. Anyway, I wish you, Mayu and everyone here a merry Christmas and a wonderful new year. Though my only wish is to know the exact date Xillia 1 will be released in America. But that's just me.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 17:06, December 22, 2012 (UTC)

Edit: almost forgot. You're about to beat the game? Man, you've gotten farther than I have, I just got to Mantaic. It's hard to play the game and jot down info at the same time.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 23:34, December 22, 2012 (UTC)

I won't beat it for a while. I'm trying to learn all the altered artes and obtain a sufficient amount of Grade.

Moviebaby (talk) 03:50, December 23, 2012 (UTC)

Well, I'm sure you know this already but, altered strike artes need to be used 100 times to be branched off, altered magic artes need to be used 50 times and only certain artes that can be altered can ony be obtained through events. Did you beat all the giganto monsters, if not do not go after the last one until you have that amount of Grade. They can respawn if you're lucky until you beat the last one. I don't mean to toot my own horn but I managed to beat Hermit Drill three times, which should help my Grade. So, put in a list of Altered artes you have mastered and ones you still need to. I got the water and wind skills for Repede so I got Divine Dog Whirlpool and soon I'll get whatever it is Repede can do with wind. I'm gonna be moving out to my sister's place so I can try to work on it from there. The Sands of Kogorh is where I'll find Medusa Butterfly. If I'm lucky it'll respawn after I beat it so I can get its synthesis material. That reminds me, Zaude is where another Giganto Monster resides. And I'm surprised no one is working on that article. Dahngrest too, even though we both saw the new war, the End of Ragou and the new journey. But I guess it would have to fit the MoS in order to be on there. Well, here to the new place.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 11:34, December 23, 2012 (UTC)

Edit: There was something I forgot to tell you. I faced Hermit Drill four times actually. The first time I ran away for the skit. Also, Thanks for helping with the Zaphias article. Though I made a newer version of it after I read a notification saying it was deleted before because it lacked any kind of info.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 22:52, December 23, 2012 (UTC)

Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas. I hope you got what you asked for.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 14:51, December 25, 2012 (UTC)

New place
Since my old living arrangements did not work out I am now living in my sister's condominium. Now, I too am working on a few things These include getting the fatal strike titles, unlocking the altered artes, etc. I beat Medusa Butterfly and Outbreaker. MB was no cakewalk despite my grinding and I managed to get over 80,000 gald out of my trip. Anyway, here are a couple of lists, I've been working on the altered artes as I get the weapons that make it possible: I got fire weapons for Yuri, Estelle, Raven, and Judith, Wind weapons for Karol and Repede and a Water weapon for Repede. As a result: [deleted] That's it from my end. Hope you're doing better than I am.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 18:54, December 26, 2012 (UTC)

Vacation
I'm glad you're going to take a vacation. It will be nice to unwind for a while to recharge your batteries. You deserve it. If you plan on spending time with friends and family, do so. I myself am on vacation until January 29th, then it's back to school for me. Well, here's to your vacation, oh and I wish you a happy new year. BTW, My end, Judith's secret is revealed and I got Water-based weapons for Yuri and Estelle. but I need Cocatrice Claws for other equipment. I'm gonna be working on Estelle's Variable Hex and Resist Field, but I don't need to work on Star Sign - Aqua. By this I mean I will work on branching them off. See you later.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 16:58, December 27, 2012 (UTC)

Edit: Again, I apologize for giving you so much work. Nice touch on the Dahngrest article. I guess the info had to be updated for some time.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 19:26, December 27, 2012 (UTC)

Just to clarify, I have been out of town, unable to monitor the Recent Changes, but I'm back now and will attempt to double check everything edited since I left. Hope everyone enjoyed the holiday season.

Moviebaby (talk) 08:19, January 6, 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry.
You're right. I should have been patient and worked on something else like I am now. Currently I am adding the resale prices to every item that has a page made, like bows, daggers, mails, etc. Still mastering those altered artes? What I do is the instant I get a weapon that has a skill that alters artes I get to work on it right away. But now I can't d that because I overwrote my file 2 that had a lot of progress with my file 1, so now I'm in Heliord after Yuri got arrested in Caer Bocram. But what did you think of the title of the section: "Crisis in Dahngrest"? Oh, before I forget, welcome back and happy new year. Here's to Xillia 1 coming out this year.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 14:05, January 6, 2013 (UTC)

Resale prices
I know you may not care about this but I managed to get the resale prices of all the equipment and the synthesis costs of some tools for all things Vesperia. That ought to at least put a dent on the wiki's completion.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 03:54, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Presa article
You're right. We should be working on stuff that's already here. And there are a lot of pages. Anyway, you never told me what you thought of the Crisis in Dahngrest section. I know it needs work but it's still important. It leads up to the Don's farewell.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 19:10, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

You are digging a huge hole for yourself, Winxfan. Mayu is either deleting or reverting your edits due to her already having warned you they will be classified as spam. The next offence will result in a permanent ban. Heed the warnings or just leave. This is not me being mean, but you should pay attention to what she is telling you.

Moviebaby (talk) 19:31, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

I thought my Crisis in Dahngrest part was well done. And I don't care what Mayu says anymore the Dahngrest article needs more info. Instead of deleting the Crisis in Dahngrest section can't you shorten it like always? And I'm only going to be banned for a year.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 19:58, January 13, 2013 (UTC)


 * People on the TSF even told Winxfan that all of his info is inaccurate and written based on assumptions, and they specified that Winxfan should not write anything he has zero knowledge about, because it is insulting to those who -do- know the story and side materials when someone posts lies and untruths as fact. And that is one of our policies, that speculation is forbidden. But he continues anyway. But besides that, the justification for any further ban action is the concept of an edit war, that Winxfan keeps recreating content that has been deleted, to the point that the user can no longer be considered a valid contributor, rather a ban-worthy vandal. One deletion isn't enough with this guy, and if a second deletion has to happen, then a third is likely. How does it stop? The banhammer. Or his own good conscience, if it even exists. I've withheld the former out of good faith, yet Winxfan continues to do these things, not only ignoring what we are telling him, but also spamming the wiki with junk that we do not deserve to see. There is no good intent to be seen in Winxfan's contributions, and any good faith shown toward him is undeserved.


 * If anyone is going to add anything to the Dahngrest article, make sure it's DONE. The whole thing should be finished so it never needs to be touched except for minor edits or technical/infrastructure concerns - it should not need any more significant renovations. The fact that the original page was incomplete should have meant it gets deleted as a whole, but it was cleaned up before I had a chance to destroy the page. And keep in mind that the content was not merely "shortened", it was -rewritten- due to bad grammar, irrelevant text, horribad writing style, continuous use of idioms that cannot be understood clearly by readers who may not be native Americanglish speakers, the list goes on. The effort required to fix this crap is monumental, and this effort could have been focused on SOMETHING ELSE. So rather than telling people to fix your work just so it can stay, even though it would no longer -be- your work since it will be written in an completely different way and may as well have been written from scratch by anyone else, you should just STOP POSTING ANYTHING so that things can be done correctly on our own time, and so we don't have to redirect our focus toward fixing your crap. Stop being a nuisance and distraction. I'm deleting your stuff immediately as soon as I see it so that your distractions are minimalized, but when you are the one involved, you force your distractions in everyone's face.


 * Again I repeat: we do not deserve Winxfan's edits indeed. I fully agree with that guy who told him that. We don't deserve to exert the effort required to put up with his crap, and we don't deserve the crap itself. We deserve the disappearance of that crap and its source. inb4 all of these words are ignored yet again due to selective reading


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 20:23, January 13, 2013 (UTC)


 * Btw, if anyone gets banned for a third time, my policy is to refresh that ban as soon as that user makes him/herself visible again after the year-long duration is expired. It is a limitation in the MediaWiki software to set the maximum block duration to one year, but I will not tolerate the presence of anyone who has been banned enough to receive the permanent duration. This has happened already for two vandals, one of whom uses a variable IP so I actually had to ban an entire IP range, sacrificing anyone who might have been a valid contributor from that range. Don't treat this lightly. If you are banned for a third time, you are banned forever, and not even ban evasion will help you.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 20:31, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

I'm done.
I totally understand now. You guys don't want me around anymore. You win. I quit.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 04:57, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

I wonder for how long this time. Moviebaby (talk) 20:35, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Forever! This is the last you'll hear from me.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 01:43, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

I'm sure Mayu can only hope so. Moviebaby (talk) 02:06, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

Well don't worry about that. I won't have to deal with her either. I'm going back to Pokemon Wikia and Winx Wikia where I am respected. This discussion is now over!

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 02:46, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

So
Recently, I have been working on cleaning pages to ensure an organized quality to the wiki. Now that many pages have been cleaned and formatted properly in terms of sections, images, links, etc., it should be much easier to expand them, and I intend to begin doing so again. Hope you all contribute in your spare time as well. I believe if we work in unison then this wiki will continue to grow and thrive on the effort we put into it, progressing into something greater than it is now.

Moviebaby (talk) 07:01, January 23, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, thank you for what has been done so far to clean up the pages to follow our most important rules. I am trying to flesh out some pages (Reid and Meredy's articles atm sry Keele and Keele's greatest fangirl Primula from Fandom v1  ), but I'm not publishing anything until I'm done with them. I should probably be worried about the upcoming Hearts R though, since the demo is already out. Regarding image names, that's something that only I can do, but it takes a lot of back-and-forth work to change an image name and then all link instances that are used to display the image on every page. I have a set naming scheme in mind but nothing is set in stone, and I need to think through it thoroughly before I can start to work on such a task, which I'd rather not bother myself with for the time being.


 * Just one thing, regarding pages that are devoted to gameplay mechanics. Sometimes you see articles with a "Function" section. Those should be retained as full sections, rather than subsections of the "History" section. I know I didn't specify this in the MoS, but they do need to be kept distinct since the history stuffs should refer to relevance in the story, whereas the function stuffs relate to gameplay. This caught my attention because of the page for Swordians, but other pages also utilize the "Function" section as is. I know one of these pages is Elemental Grid, but yeah those other subsections should be subordinated into "Function". There is no story-based reason for this system, however, so a "History" section is out of place. So yeah, this section is really reserved for terms that relate to Category:Gameplay Mechanics, and they need to use that category name rather than just Category:Terms, which is for significant story elements. Both categories are mutually exclusive, so both can be added when both apply, like with the Swordians.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 09:22, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

That's fine about the image thing. I've just noticed many users upload image files under ambiguous file names that make it difficult to locate and use efficiently. Anyway, I sort of figured about the "Function" thing, as I begin to notice more and more how it was necessary. I'll fix it whenever I see it (before the "History" section, right?). On another note, I had forgotten the rule about online video screenshots and their lack of clarity. I try to encourage productivity on here without reprimanding users who are actually trying, though I realize Juan Ma is borderline problem user. Now that I'm finished grinding through pages in an attempt to make it easier for future edits on those pages (which I sometimes did late at night or in a hurry so sorry for mistakes), I'll work on expansion, the more necessary priority. I find it much easier to expand an article when everything is in place and linked correctly.

Moviebaby (talk) 16:22, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

Edits in question
I am concerned about cluttering Mayu's convo with an exchange between us so I thought to contact you directly.
 *  Every edit you have made has had to be fixed in some manner, meaning you have wasted my time

I'll focus on what you are addressing and leave it to Mayu to discuss her actions. Here is what I've noticed:

Imag's talk: I do not believe my inquiry to imag was spam. As I mentioned, as can be seen at Special:ListUsers/sysop, while he hasn't edited since 2010, he was last active on Wikia January 5, less than 4 weeks ago. As the URL was set a long time ago I figured the question as to what led to this being the most active Tales wiki would be more appropriate. It made me wonder if it's origins might have initially been more conservative, perhaps relating only to those games which take place on the world of Aselia.
 * don't waste other users' time by making an unnecessary amount of spam posts that desperately seek answers

This was a polite question which may or may not be answered at leisure. I think your view of spam is overly broad, this is community interaction. If he's inactive, there's not exactly anything on the wiki he's being distracted from, right? If you find such inquiries ridiculous/spam/waste/irrelevant I will avoid asking them of you. I will respond if you address me on my or other's talks though.

Deleting my forum post: Priority reminders is classed as a forum. Forums on wiki projects are meant for users to interact in, so I was using it correctly. If this were something which were not meant to be edited by anyone except for SysOps, it would be in Category:Policy. Pages like that have talk pages where policy can be discussed. Forum pages don't have talk pages since they are themselves talk pages.

This was something that did not have to be fixed at all. If Forum:Priority reminders is not meant to be a forum, it should probably be titled Aselia:Priority reminders. For example Aselia:Manual of Style is a policy page and you were able to discuss it at Aselia_talk:Manual_of_Style back in November without having your opinions being called spamming or trolling.

The reason why I would have a conversation about priorities on a priority's talk page (which could exist if it were prefixed with Aselia and not Forum) would be that it would potentially be a community discussion. I utilize talk pages mostly for 1-on-1 conversations which pertain to broad issues that a page (or accompanying talk page) may not yet exist for.

This is not so much spam as trying to be organized, because if I think many people will get involved, it saves cluttering one person's talk with several people's interactions about an issue. I try to be considerate about this since some people get talk page notifications in their e-mail. +Yc 03:56, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

You largely have no clue what you're talking about, or at least you don't realize how we do things here. Every single edit on this wiki is monitored, whether it be by Mayu or myself, and your creation of talk pages with ridiculous questions only sets progress backward. That is what's distracting, and it doesn't matter whose talk page you decide to comment on, everyone sees it, as user talk pages are in no way intended for private conversations. If you wish to contribute, flesh out existing pages, as you have already been told. Stubs create more work in the long run, and guaranteed, any attempt at filling the wiki with half-assed articles will result in immediate deletion, edit stalking, and reprimandations, as repeated offences will be classified as spam. And yes, your creation of talk pages containing ridiculous, unnecessary, and irrelevant content is spam.

This wiki has its own rules, and you can either abide by them or leave. The MoS mandates very simply the structure and guidelines for this wiki, and you have been informed of priorities. Anything else is honestly a diversion from actual progress. There is nothing wrong with stimulating conversation concerning the series, but when you're asking questions that validate your lack of knowledge in regard to the series as a whole, it's more irritating than innocent. In other words, contribute what information you know from the apparent one game you've played from the series if you wish to be of any help. Otherwise, don't bother because I really hate cleaning up messes.

Moviebaby (talk) 05:46, January 31, 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh look, this guy became the next Winxfan.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 08:14, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

My primary concern is they will begin plagiarizing from this wiki. I will attempt to help monitor it as well. I doubt it will have the chance to die now with recent activity.

Moviebaby (talk) 21:42, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you
I'm still unfamiliar with how the whole talk page system works so if I put this in a wrong place, please forgive me. I just wanted to say thank you for cleaning up my mistakes and anything minor I might've missed in my edits and contributions. I appreciate it. Hopefully you won't have to be doing it for a lot longer, and if it does become bothersome please let me know and I'll do my best to try and edit articles as properly as I can.

Prince Flare (talk) 23:41, March 5, 2013 (UTC)

Return
Just wanted to clarify that I haven’t forgotten about this wiki and will continue to work on my projects soon. This school semester has been stressful and full of surprises, and although I have been able to occasionally make minor fixes, I hope to be a little more productive shortly. Thank you Mayu for always keeping an eye on the wiki and working hard.

Moviebaby (talk) 05:33, May 3, 2013 (UTC)