User talk:Mayu Miyuki/Archive 9


 * This is an archival of all discussions on Mayu Miyuki's user talk page througout the second half of the year of 2013. These conversations are considered to be closed - if you wish to leave a reply to any of these posts, please leave your comment on the original page.

Wiki Help for Xillia 2?
Hey there, Mayu Miyuki! My name is Doug and I'm a member of Wikia's Community Development Team! I was just stopping by to ask if you would like any help around the wiki prior to the launch of Xillia 2, whether it's writing content, re-organizing categories, or what have you. I'm a big JRPG and Tales fan, so I'd be happy to provide any support you might need.

If you're interested in drafting up a community project to time up with Xillia's release, I'm available to help as well. Just let me know if you'd like the support. Have a good one! : D

Doug (profile)•(talk)•(email) 01:00, July 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * While I appreciate the desire to help, our vital content regarding Xillia 2 has already been completed, particularly through our list-type resource pages for translation of artes and skills in the Japanese version. While more content on characters and locations is worthwhile, I prefer to see focus dedicated toward existing pages rather than the creation of new ones that might be minimalist in actual content. Granted, if there is a lot to say about a particular topic, then it's fine to post it already as long as our format requirements are respected.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 14:23, July 19, 2013 (UTC)

Edits
Why did you remove my edits? They are the official confirmed english voice actors.

(ORaven)


 * Because the game is not yet released in localized form, thus there no English voice actors to begin with. Changes of this nature and other fixes regarding localization of terms and names will be made through sweep edits that happen all at once upon release of the game. It will not happen any sooner than this, and especially not by users who think it's okay to just input names, officially confirmed or not, without citation. But again, regardless of that citation, for now these names will not be recognized until the game proper gets its release.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 05:48, August 2, 2013 (UTC)

Upon release do I have the permission to edit in the english VA then?

(ORaven)

One series per month
This may seem stupid coming from me but we're trying to complete and perfect articles that already exist right? So, instead of spreading our focus on all the articles, why not focus on one Tales series per month? This way you can get all the info needed and still maintain the steady pace. Think about it:

You can work on one Tales series one month like Phantasia and focus only on articles relating to it and the next month you can focus on articles relating only to Symphonia.

This is just an example but I think you get the point.

Just give this some thought. That's all I ask.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 13:16, August 2, 2013 (UTC)

We work on what we can when we can. The same goes for everyone else.

Moviebaby (talk) 17:31, August 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * Agreed with Moviebaby. What you are suggesting is precisely what we don't want, "spreading our focus on all the articles" by handling ALL articles for a given game on a per-month cycle. Get it in your head that we prioritize what is relevant, and you won't be the one to decide that for us. In other words, DENIED.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 21:36, August 2, 2013 (UTC)

It just seemed like a good idea.

Content is first? I wrote articles on locations but stopped around Chesedonia for Abyss and Phaeroh's Crag for Vesperia, and let's not forget the Presa article I wrote which I recently updated to include her kanji. But you have a point. We need to work on what we have before working on anything else, and with over 2,700 articles that's a lot of ground to cover. Ever thought of making your own list seperating articles that are perfectly complete and ones that still need work? then again that in itself is work. Never mind.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 23:43, August 2, 2013 (UTC)

Video Policy
Hey Mayu, it's Doug from Wikia again. Could you tell me a bit about Aselia's video policy? Are videos allowed on article pages, blog posts, etc? We may be getting some licensed premium videos for Xillia 2 and we'd love to know if the community would be interested in hosting them somewhere on the wiki. What do you think?

We have a category already for Xillia 1 here, that can also be used if interested. Would love to hear your input, thanks!


 * We don't accept videos on the basis that they are copyrighted content that belongs to the uploader on whatever video aggregate site they are uploaded to, disclaimers nonwithstanding, since they usually defer copyright to some other source but the copyright is still there in the form of intellectual content as in "let's plays". And like images, explicit permission must be provided to use them here. For the sake of simplicity, videos are not allowed outright. Besides, they cause an increase in bandwidth usage during page loading, which is actually somewhat relevant on my side of the world. Basically, if it's not an image, don't upload it. Other sites exist for that purpose.


 * Besides, any "premium videos" are best posted on the official Nico Nico Douga and/or Youtube channels, if not the main websites for the games themselves, like Tales Channel.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 02:42, August 4, 2013 (UTC)

It's Come! Oh ma gawd...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp25BbxyLQ8 (見て見て)

Someone in the US has it, and completed it. I can't hear the incantations because of the music but I won't be on for a while due to examinations. However, I will try my best to update. I think Elemental Mastery Supreme Elements has a different incant but Elise's is the same if not, very similar.

Actually, from this vid, I can do Elise's incantation for Reverie-Go-Round, now known as 'Scary-Go-Round'. Hmmm, Final Fury, Jude says some things I can't pick up. He doesn't make noise, he SAYS stuff before he screams, FINAL FURY. Demons' Lance, again the interference with the music and Nachtical's voice being slightly too deep hinders me from picking up what he's saying. Meteor Storm by Maxwell, all I heard were, "blah blah blah (something)...Time and Space...Meteor Storm!" something like that.

Anyways, have a look when you have time. The point is, I want to update Elise's page now that US has gotten it but there's still time remaining until the EU get it; on the 9/8/13. Permission to edit, or would you like to since you're obviously better at page editing and scrutinizing than I am? I will get the game as soon as it releases in the EU and work on Localizing the Arte pages.

Regards, --水のウォーリー (talk) 06:03, August 6, 2013 (UTC)水のウォーリー

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2-VInA1M8M&feature=c4-overview&list=UUaCaJHJ9t6rai6m7aL3ZcHA

That's a reuploaded version of the mystic arte exhibition with lower music. Some things are still hard to make out though.

oRaven

Idea coming up: When you get the game, for Mystic Arte battles, turn the music all the way down and voice volume all the way up. Could be helpful.

Also, for Mayu, can we get rid of that Unlocalized tag on some of the Xillia pages?

And I'm gonna get my copy today, as soon as my sis gets home. The articles I'll write, but I won't post any of them here.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 12:13, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

Most Recently Localized Arte Name

 * The content of this discussion has been moved to Template talk:LatestEnglish.

Tales Series Forums down
I've been having trouble getting on TSF all day yesterday. I keep getting an error message from phpBB no matter what computer in my household I use. The TSF holds the list of artes I've been compiling for Xillia, so I hope it'll come back up soon. Has anyone else been experiencing the same difficulty as well? It'll give me some relief to know I'm not alone.

MabiEditor (talk) 16:01, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

I have.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 21:08, August 8, 2013 (UTC)


 * We have a private reserve forums that gets its use whenever TSF dies. I'm not sure if I should say where.


 * Flamfas posted: (Yesterday at 1:21 pm)
 * Clearly they are just restoring all our lost posts at the expense of all posts since November .... Right guys???!?


 * Then again that's the kind of awesome troll move that Hometek isn't capable of. But it would be a dramatic change from the public ignorance and comedy of the entire Bantegui fiasco. We have a new community manager already, J. Kartje, and people (Flamfas) have already poked him on Twitter about this latest forum downtime.


 * Regarding that arte name list on the TSF, I have it cached. I'm using it as a basis for converting our lists, but you know, I also work for a living and don't have a lot of free time. At least today is a holiday in my country so I can do some stuff now.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 22:04, August 8, 2013 (UTC)


 * By the way, I need confirmation for a couple of things. Does Rowen keep his "J"? What are the localized translations for Bushinwaza/Seireijutsu/Magi/Second Artes/Charge Waza/etc?


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 22:14, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure if Rowen keeps his J or not. I just met him on my first playthrough and he hasn't said his full name yet. As for the arte type names, I don't really know.

But I do know some of new artes that you can update the arte list with.

Pikohazan > Pow Blade Recover Heal > Recover Heal Pikorein > Hammer Rain Chiryuusenha > Terra Fissure Fairy Circle > Fairy Circle

MabiEditor (talk) 22:29, August 8, 2013 (UTC)


 * It doesn't translate those terms in the manual? And I saw that you changed Link Artes to Linked Artes - is this official? If so, I need to move the page for listing all link artes.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 23:46, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

I never actually read the digital manual. I'll check it out later on. And yes, Linked Artes is the official name.

MabiEditor (talk) 23:48, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

I can answer that question for you: yes Rowen does keep the J. in his name. I have the character book which came with my Limited Edition Xillia pre-order.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 01:18, August 9, 2013 (UTC)

From digging around in the game, here's how I think the arte styles are named.

Bushinwaza > Martial Artes Seireijutsu > Spirit Artes Magi > Spirit Shifted Artes Charge Waza > Charged Artes

Second Artes I don't know.

Rats
The Garbage Corps. are called the Rats. Very fitting if you ask me since they're a spy organization, but not a fitting name for an organization with Presa in it. My opinion. Sorry but with the forums down due to maintenance or repairs where are we too-- I got it! You guys can use the Yugiohcardmaker.net forums until the tales forums come back.

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 01:49, August 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * Stop blogging. We don't care. And stop it with the "sorry" spam - if there's something to be sorry about in the first place, don't do it.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 02:43, August 10, 2013 (UTC)

Trolleriffic
So I noticed this fool called OneFive008 keeps blanking wiki pages. I don't have the patience to go all-out edit war on 'em, so I figured I'd notify you. You're the fellow with the banhammer in his back pocket, after all. --Genowhirl (talk) 06:56, August 26, 2013 (UTC)

She must not be online. If she were, the perpetrator would have already been dealt with. In the meantime, simply ignore it. I've dealt with much more experienced vandals. This guy is an amateur.

Moviebaby (talk) 07:01, August 26, 2013 (UTC)

Hi
You don't know how relieved I am to see you.

Moviebaby (talk) 09:21, August 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * If I'm not online when something like this happens, try to send a report to the Wikia Central people via Special:Contact/general.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 09:25, August 26, 2013 (UTC)

I did, but I noticed that after I sent the report, it gave me a message indicating the response could take up to two to three business days. Needless to say, once we thought he was gone, we were able to revert each page. I only edit-warred with him there at the end to see if it would make him stop. Anyway, everything looks fine now.

Moviebaby (talk) 09:33, August 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * For anything that may have been missed, crossreference with this edit log. 260 edits total, confirmed via Special:Editcount. Not all are page blankings, and some are repeated on the same pages. I will browse through everything myself, but you may wish do the same as well.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 09:40, August 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * Actually there is no need to do so by now. I have checked the history of every single page that was edited, and I can confirm that every page has been reverted to its pre-vandalism state earlier today, without any unscrupulous additions or subtractions that would otherwise have been unnoticed. Everything is okay already, and anything else that can be done is already out of our hands. Just remain vigilant. Based on my observation of the pages that were edited, it was done by someone who just learned about Tales through Xillia's English release and reacted badly because of something related to it. The whole thing was too unsophisticated to be an effort by /v/, and I just checked the Tales thread there and it's just about waifus.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 10:14, August 26, 2013 (UTC)

Tales of Link and Tales of Destiny - A Pachislot Called Fate
According to the most recent AbyssalChronicles articles (http://www.abyssalchronicles.com/), there are two new Tales games in the making/released in Japan. The first is "Tales of Link", which will be released on the smartphone in Japan this fall. The other is a remake of Tales of Destiny called "Tales of Destiny - A Pachislot Called Fate". As the name suggests, it is a Japanese slot machine.

--Agarfinkel (talk) 18:42, August 28, 2013 (UTC)

W...why...?

Moviebaby (talk) 01:54, August 29, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm already aware of these things, no worries.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 12:21, August 29, 2013 (UTC)

Third-world country?
Off-topic: I saw somewhere you mentioned that you were living in a third-world country, and I know you have stated before that you formerly lived in the U.S. If it's not too prying or irrelevant, which country and why? Just curious, seeing as how your time zone is drastically different from mine.

Moviebaby (talk) 21:26, August 31, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm living in the same country as Abby from AC. :3c But yeah, every so often I get horrid problems with my internet connection that last for a whole week, or power outages that last up to 50 hours. The recent typhoons and storms have caused a lot of landslide issues around my area too.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 23:06, August 31, 2013 (UTC)

I have no idea who Abby is or what AC is, but okay lol. Must be inconvenient. Are you there permanently or just temporarily?

Moviebaby (talk) 23:31, August 31, 2013 (UTC)

When you say Abby from AC, are you referring to the person from the AbyssalChronicles site? One time in one of the articles (forgot when), they mentioned that they have not been able to update because of the typhoons and floods in their country. I think it was somewhere in the Phillipines.

Agarfinkel (talk) 12:41, September 8, 2013 (UTC)

Think we should add a Glitches/Bugs section?
Just a thought I had, but do you think we should have a page about the list of bugs and glitches from throughout the Tales series, in your opinion? Final Fantasy's wiki has one and it gave me the idea if we could do the same. I just thought it would be interesting since Tales games never seem to avoid having glitches in their final products. Letdragon (talk) 21:03, September 1, 2013 (UTC)

I doubt she'll approve. Regardless of what other wikis do, we abide by our own rules. Anything involving glitches, bugs, exploits, or unintended data in the game is highly unnecessary and mindless to persistently distinguish. It would also pose a validity dilemma, seeing as how many of us would be relying on the experience of others to assess the content of the page. I personally object it due to its irrelevance on an encyclopedic site.

Moviebaby (talk) 21:15, September 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * I was referring to the Tales glitches that are currently well known, the ones people can manipulate to their advantage (or disadvantage). Plus glitches/bugs pages tend to have accompanying screenshots, so it's not like we're simply going on a person's "word" that the glitch exists and is viable just because they said so. I'll wait for her reply. Letdragon (talk) 23:18, September 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't want to have glitches and exploits declared in that way precisely because they are unintended situations within the games. We need to capture what the games are trying to depict for those who play the game normally. This should be focused far and above anything that can be said to be artifacts of coding. There are too many existing glitches on our articles as is to warrant any discussion about the glitches of the games. If you're worrying about bugs and such, you're prioritizing things wrong, and the matters that are actually important and relevant are left by the wayside. Again.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 05:53, September 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * Alright then. Just wanted to run the suggestion by you. Letdragon (talk) 07:01, September 2, 2013 (UTC)

Problem
You might want to block this user before he does anything stupid. He started vandalizing Bleach Wiki like crazy and then must have gotten here via my user page links. I implore you Mayu, stop it before it begins. Schiffy (T &#124; C ) 03:38, September 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, I kept undoing all his page blanks here, too, and VSTF got him. Schiffy (T &#124; C ) 03:54, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

Now that all is said at done, I should probably explain my fairly rushed message that I made while I was reverting his edits. He was in the Bleach Wiki chat, completely ignoring policies even though there were 3 chat moderators (myself included) there. After he left, I banned him from chat for a week, and then he started blanking pages. After the admin (Salubri) blocked him indefinitely, he decided to leave a message on my talk page here with a message saying he was going to start doing the same thing to Aselia. I then sent a request to VSTF to get him, and after 23 page blanks, they pulled the plug on his IP. I suppose I should take some responsibility for this little incident, because it seems he was trying to target a wiki that I contributed to, and by possibly pure coincidence, it actually seems he has been here before under the name OneFive008, which was also globally blocked. I apologize for inadvertently starting this in a way, but I'm glad he's gone (again). Schiffy (T &#124; C ) 14:14, September 5, 2013 (UTC)


 * You're not the one at fault here, no worries.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 15:00, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I don't know how to start a new conversation on a talk page, so I have to have Moviebaby do it for me.
Hi Mayu, i heard that you are a Admin of this wiki, here the things, I created a page for Muzet from Xillia series but someone keep on deleting it, saying it was all wrong and being a total jerk :P, can you go there and see if it is really that bad and also can you make it and tell that someone to stop being a jerk.

(15sok) I also don't know how to sign my posts, so Moviebaby has to do that for me as well.

Good luck translating that.

Moviebaby (talk) 07:20, September 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * The page has been deleted on the basis that the page that was created truly did fail to meet all expectations as specifically outlined in the Manual of Style. We are not the same as any other wiki. We have our own formatting and diction policies that are to be followed strictly, and the MoS defines what those are to no uncertain degree.


 * @Moviebaby - There really is no need to be concerned about people not signing their posts though. New users can't be expected to know how to do it, so it's simple enough to guide them to it and then don't bother pestering them about it after that. Same with starting new sections on talk pages. I don't really care about enforcing rules so much on talk pages unless it's spam.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 13:45, September 9, 2013 (UTC)

Forums back yet?
I tried to get back on the forums but it says I need an authentication code. Does that mean the forums are back?

Signed, Winxfan1. I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club 00:31, September 13, 2013 (UTC)

Even More Future Tales Games Releases
For those who do not know about it yet, according to the most recent AbyssalChronicles articles (http://www.abyssalchronicles.com/), two more Tales games will be released later this year in Japan on the Apple iOS. The first is a re-release of Tales of Phantasia, set to come out this Fall. It will be operated through a touch screen, will have microtransactions for items, and will be similar to the PSP version. The other game is a new game called Tales of Bibliotheca, which will come later this month. The game is basically a scenario book and battle application that lets the player "relive the scenarios of the Tales games using new illustrations depicting scenes from the games and some select battles to fight per chapter. They will indeed include the voice audio from the original games." The first game to be covered by Tales of Bibliotheca will be Tales of Vesperia.

--Agarfinkel (talk) 17:36, September 17, 2013 (UTC)


 * Another re-re-portmake of Phantasia, which happens every few years with flawless timing as always. No surprise, especially since this is obviously going to be the testbed for the next upcoming mothership title, exclusively for iOS... then ported a few months later to PS3 with an unnecessary new character. [talescycletalescycletalescycletalescycletalescycletalescycle]  And Bibliotheca is just another quick cash-in like that online chat engine slash "game"  [with avatars!!!!]  Tales of the Town. Again, no surprise.  [Then again, ai-sp@ce was pretty fun for a while... it just got boring with little to actually do aside from chat, and jankenpon.]


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 14:21, September 18, 2013 (UTC)

More Tales of Link Information and NYCC 2013 interview with Hideo Baba
According to the most recent AbyssalChronicles articles (http://www.abyssalchronicles.com/), the release date for Tales of Link has been pushed back to Spring 2014. In addition, the game will include Tales characters from various games. So far, the Tales characters include Asbel Lhant, Senel Coolidge, Leon Magnus, and Judith. More can be seen in the articles from September 27 and October 15.

In addtion, at the New York Comic Con 2013, someone was able to get interview with Tales of Series Producer Hideo Baba. The highlights of the interview "include:
 * Despite Tales of the Abyss's popularity, at present there are no plans to remake it for a current gen or next gen console (i.e. HD)
 * They wanted people to have the as much of the original experience of Symphonia offers as much as possible for Tales of Symphonia Chronicles, hence a lot of parts in the game were kept in their original state, such as the level caps.
 * They'll certainly consider porting or remastering other titles if Tales of Symphonia Chronicles is successful. However, regarding Tales of Destiny and Tales of Destiny 2, those would be better off with a remake or would require a remake because it mainly uses pixels. At present, there are no plans for that, though.
 * Tales of Xillia 2 release date? "That's a secret for now!" But it'll definitely out for 2014.
 * Baba-san can't really pick a single Tales character as his favorite, but if he really had to choose, it'd be Leon Magnus from Tales of Destiny.
 * Baba-san makes a small laugh upon hearing "Tales of Zestiria." In any case, the "next title" is certainly in the works. We'll just have to wait for it.
 * When asked whether they would consider making more fighting-style games ala Tales of VS, Baba-san mentions that at present fans are asking more for story-driven games with unique characters, so there are no plans for now.
 * It'll be up to Nintendo whether they want to include Tales characters in Smash Bros."

--Agarfinkel (talk) 21:12, October 17, 2013 (UTC)


 * Dude, if anyone wants to know this info, they can go on AC and read it directly. Don't bother posting it here. Besides, I am aware of all of this already and it is largely all irrelevant to me.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 04:30, October 18, 2013 (UTC)

Just something I noticed....
So, given that you seem to be the only active admin here, I can assume that if you contacted them, Staff would most likely give you bureaucratic rights if asked. I'm not sure if you've tried or not, but just putting the statement out there. Schiffy (T &#124; C ) 23:02, November 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't need it. The only "powers" above the normal user that I need are the ability to delete/revert spam and vandalism, and to block those who do such things. That's really the only reason I am an admin at all, to handle these matters as soon as they are noticed without having to contact Wikia VSTF. Otherwise I consider myself to be the same as any other user. Moving/renaming pages is also a vital power that I needed, but when Wikia made it universal to all users, causing more problems than necessary as a result, the "advantage" of being an admin for this purpose becomes null. Wikia also changed its terms of service when they forced every wiki to adopt the Oasis skin, denying us the right to customize the skin via CSS, which was also a former admin power when the Monaco skin was still in use. So again, there is no more benefit for having more powers than the average user when even someone with founder rights cannot change the ridiculous width constraint of the Oasis skin, which is why we still do not approve or support it, and instead encourage all to select Monobook in their settings.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 06:51, November 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * While it's true that alot of things can be done by the average user now, the one benefit an admin has aside from fast-reversion and blocking is customization of the wiki (background, wordmark, mediawiki files, enabling the wiki's chat, etc), and a bureaucrat's powers are, above all else, the power to give other people the ability to do so should they not always be active. Schiffy (T &#124; C ) 16:45, November 12, 2013 (UTC)

Winxfan's Offensive Request on Another Wiki
I know this may seem like old news to you but I really need to report this guy. A user by the name of Winxfan1 has requested me to write his articles of Tales of Xillia's characters on Aselia, and he asked me to do so on a SpongeBob Squarepants wiki. I consider this an offense because he's practically using me to write his useless pages for him. Ever since I rejoined, I heard a lot about this troublesome user so I am not going to tolerate his actions or fall for his little game.

BurningFlameHaze (talk) 15:10, December 17, 2013 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, as much as we'd like to take further action, the most we can do is to ban him (again). Even this doesn't accomplish anything since you say he is using other sites for this purpose. His mental condition apparently prevents him from the many cease and desist orders that have been given to him. Then other users inavertently encourage him by "being nice" when he deserves no such thing, which reinforces his bullshit. The only thing that can be done is to remain vigilant about the quality of Aselia and block off any Winxfan-inspired edits, which are always obvious and on the same level as spam. Still, thank you for reporting him for actually trying to pursue such actions, so that we can be aware of others who have experienced similar acts of subversion and act accordingly.


 * If Winxfan continues to harass you like this, you may opt to report this to the admins at Wikia Central. Provide to them specific examples of your interactions to build a proper case against him, though I don't know what action could really be taken even if they are aware of the situation.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 22:20, December 17, 2013 (UTC)

A Small Question
Hi there. I've been wondering about something for a while. If I upload a manga page about something that is isn't shown or mentioned in the game or the anime, is it okay? I asked this because I wanted to show a small page of Yuri and Flynn in their childhood. It is shown in the manga version.

Of course, if not then I won't do it.

GamerGirlzPS2 (talk) 15:34, December 17, 2013 (UTC)


 * Anything in the manga or other materials which are not explicitly overridden by the games proper are considered to be part of the story's canon. So it's okay. The various manga often do add a lot of details that are worth knowing, most notably the Asch Gaiden and Ion Gaiden. As long as they do not contradict what is in the games, there is no problem. Anything that serves as a retelling or alternative perspective of the actual game events is potentially canon as long as they only add onto the details of the game, not change them completely. The games hold the highest tier of canon-ness.


 * Also, kindly be aware of the above section and stop encouraging the growth of cancer.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 22:28, December 17, 2013 (UTC)

Really!? Thanks for the permission! I'll find the page immediately!

GamerGirlzPS2 (talk) 15:42, December 20, 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep in mind that any image that you upload should show the original JP text. Don't use scanlations, because that is content that belongs to the scanlation group that does it. Likewise with fansubs for anime screenshots - just use the source JP movie instead if you have access to it.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 20:21, December 20, 2013 (UTC)

Um, if I erase the text instead...? Will that be acceptable? I guess not, huh?

GamerGirlzPS2 (talk) 07:21, December 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * I won't delete what you uploaded, but originals are better. Or as close to the originals as possible, if ever that is the problem.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 12:21, December 21, 2013 (UTC)

Wikia Expert Showcase
Hey there, Mayu Miyuki, my name is Doug from Wikia's Community Development Team! Wikia has a video series called Expert Showcase, that involve a Wikia Staff member, along with a few admins from different wikis discussing certain topics all related under a certain theme! Our next episode, we're gonna talk about JRPGs!

Tales Of is a very important series to the genre, so we'd love to invite you to participate in the Expert Showcase. Having a lot of knowledge across other games of the genre would also be super helpful (Final Fantasy, Chrono Trigger/Cross, Suikoden, Xenogears/Xenosaga, etc)

Are you interested in taking part? You'll need a webcam with audio/video functionality to be able to participate. If you don't have these components, or not comfortable appearing on camera, then feel free to decline!

We'll be recording the segment over Skype/Google Hangouts sometime in mid-January of next year!

Thank you, hope to hear your response soon :) Have a good one TheBlueRogue (profile)•(talk)•(email) 21:31, December 17, 2013 (UTC)


 * To be honest, I do not feel comfortable in taking part in something like this. Even if I do know a lot about the details of this series, there are others within the Tales community who know far more than I do, and some of them are more immersed with the community itself. I suppose your intention is to gather admins of each Wikia-hosted site, but I would rather recommend the admins of English Tales news sites like Abyssal Chronicles and Tales Union. They are often more informed about various details because they get their information directly from Japanese sources and translate it themselves. As for myself, I consider myself to be a normal wiki contributor with some extra tools to combat spam and vandalism, and while I do my own Japanese translations for the sake of the wiki, most of my expertise in the series rests with the older games.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 22:43, December 17, 2013 (UTC)


 * You're correct on the notion of us wanting to use admins/contributors from our own Wikia network as opposed to outside sites, though I definitely agree with you that those two resources are very, very on top of their game. Thanks for getting back to me, if you know any users on Aselia that are knowledgeable editors on the Tales Of series, feel free to pass their names my way! Appreciate it, Mayu. TheBlueRogue (profile)•(talk)•(email) 23:07, December 17, 2013 (UTC)

Final Farewell
I would just like to say goodbye but before I do, I would like you to know that I posted my Presa article in my own personal blog at Wikia Community Central. Once someone there, other than you, looks it over and fixes it I'm sure it will be presentable enough to be on here.

I'll still pop by to see how NOT progressing things are going. So farewell.

Signed, Winxfan1. (I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club) 23:20, December 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * And as expected, you do exactly the opposite of what you claim and STILL CONTINUE TO SPAM UP THIS WIKI. We warned you before, that this is intolerable. You have been banned already twice before for doing exactly the same thing. You have not yet learned your lesson, and it is obvious that you never will. The entire internet does not deserve your bullshit. Remember that your third, final ban will be a permanent one. I am probably going against all common sense and reason by not banhammering you in the face right now, but again, unlike you, I maintain my morals in pursuing justice instead of resorting to subterfuge (as reported by other users) and constant spam just to shove your garbage down our throats until we relent. But such a day will never come, rest assured.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 07:08, December 26, 2013 (UTC)

Hey!
You can't delete a sandbox for no reason! It's there just for people to take a peek! It does not hurt the wiki!

And besides, it is all articles YOU haven't made yet.

You know what, I tried to be a nice guy, but THIS IS THE LAST STRAW!

I went to the community and requested this wiki be shut down.

the oint I am trying to make here is: YOU DON'T OWN THIS WIKI!

What do you think of that?

Signed, Winxfan1. (I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club) 09:12, December 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * Even if the articles are to be made, you will not be the one to do it. The reason is that your writings are on the same level of spam, and posted as constantly and repeatedly as spam. You are spreading your misinterpretations and misinformations about the characters and other subject matters as if they are fact. You have been contested on this so many times, not just by us, but by the entire English Tales community at large. And your attempts to upload your crap writings reflect to the very same English Tales community what they believe to be why our site is unreliable, because they only see the errors that you are instrumental in bringing about. Remember that we serve that community, and I don't claim to be the owner of this site. I claim to be the janitor who cleans up the filth of this site. I might as well be lower than any other user on this site. The admin powers exist to clean up your filth and anything else caused by those with your same mindset.


 * And let me reiterate, for the n-th time, that every single edit you make forces actual valid contributors to expend more effort just to fix anything at all that is created by you, to the point that it is always easier to make the articles from scratch, on our own, as if your work never existed in any form and at any point in human history... as it should be. If there are articles that do not yet exist on this site, it is because there are other, more pertinant things to focus on, which are also demanded by the English Tales community far and above the garbage you spew out all over the internet.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 10:09, December 26, 2013 (UTC)

That's because it's stuff that actually happened and it should take priority over whatever stupid project you have going on.

You know what, when this wiki closes down, I will have the last laugh and you will be out of a job.

And one last thing, YOU may perma-ban me from this wiki, but that doesn't mean you can perma-ban me from any other wiki I have an account for.

Signed, Winxfan1. (I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club) 10:21, December 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * News flash: This site does not cater to you. It caters to the English Tales community. It caters to the community that matters.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 12:44, December 26, 2013 (UTC)

Well we haven't seen much of that community anymore have we. Not since the Tales forums closed down a while back.

Signed, Winxfan1. (I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club) 12:51, December 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * It still exists, just not on the TSF since Namdai US doesn't care if the forums exist or not. There is a reserve forums, along with AC and TU. You simply were not invited to take part in the community after it was forced to move.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 13:50, December 26, 2013 (UTC)

Heads Up
http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:613681

I recommend you head this off with your own report through Special:Contact asking Staff to fully research the situation. Link to your Talk Conversations with the user.

I ALSO recommend you seek Bureaucrat Rights in order to more effectively administrate this wiki. You should do this by *both* opening an Adoption Request (takes about 2 weeks this time of year), as well as asking User:Imaginationac (last logged in Sept 11th, so may do so again at anytime) for the additional promotion.

However this shakes out, Good Luck. --Love Robin (talk) 12:59, December 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm already aware of that particular thread, and I am confident that this site simply cannot be closed down due to how active it is, having been widely recognized as the primary wiki for the Tales series in English. That is why I refrained from commenting; the facts of the situation speak for themselves, and this isn't the first time our resident problem user tried to expand the reach of his troublemaking to Wikia Central. It is difficult to read through the entire history of Winxfan's impact on the wiki since it is spread across so many talk pages, much of which has been archived as historical discussions here on my talk page. But there is certainly nothing to hide, which is why the archives exist.


 * Regarding the bureaucrat rights, I will handle that some other time, after this current and rather typical ordeal cools down. I don't see any particular advantage from being anything higher than a sysop, but I'll look into it. Still, I appreciate the heads up.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 13:43, December 26, 2013 (UTC)