User talk:Arosia

Request
Hello, this is Texanona, the current acting admin of the Tales translation group "Taleslations" on tumblr. I'd like to improve your wiki's ability to communicate with the fandom translators in a timely and positive manner. I have spoken with the group though and there are some kinks we need to work out first over past and still existing issues. It would be beneficial to both sides if the discussion were kept private. I'd like to ask that you please contact me at talktotaleslations (a t) gmail dot com so that we can talk. I have created this email just for this purpose. If you do not want to have a private discussion then I will drop the subject and everyone will continue on as normal.

I'm sorry for bothering you and I hope I didn't mess up this wiki formatting stuff too badly. I do not understand how to use these things in the slightest which is a big reason why I stay in my own space ^ ^;. Thank you very much. --Taleslations (talk) 02:08, May 24, 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. I have contacted you using the wiki's private email account, which only I have access to.

Arosia (talk) 03:57, May 24, 2016 (UTC)

Look up old school games
Your reverted changed make no sense. The last moment was repeatedly mentioned that it was going to happen in the story and it's to create combos as a nod to old school game scenes and to use your own combos. Stop changing things when they're being corrected with accurate information. --JarinJove (talk) 00:36, June 23, 2016 (UTC)

I just looked at Vans page and um I think the page is just find as it is. and you do know that the info on the page did happen in the final fight couldn't you just post the info at the bottom of his page?


 * I don't understand your edit, particularly the nod to retro games? All the Grand Fonic Hymn section does is give all participants infinite HP and automatically activates Luke's Radiant Howl with an alternate quote at the end. It doesn't suspend any normal combo rules during the duration, so I kind of need a source or better explanation as to the whole retro gaming nod. Lanate (talk) 02:27, June 23, 2016 (UTC)

He's not making any sense, and until he does, the information will remain unchanged.

Arosia (talk) 06:06, June 23, 2016 (UTC)

Status Ailment page
Hi i found that the status ailment page that i add is deleted, but since i don`t know how the format should be can i just send the raw data so you can add it with the correct format. --Vermeilia (talk) 13:31, June 25, 2016 (UTC)

It can be restored and corrected, but if you have it saved, you can make a post at the Help desk, requesting for someone to help you format it. I haven't had a lot of time lately, and I'm also not the best at formatting tables, but Lanate is and will probably get to it when he has the time. He already formatted the other one for you.

Arosia (talk) 19:04, June 25, 2016 (UTC)

I have trouble about the formatting (that cause one of page deleted) Mind if you explain it to me? im rather confused about this. 15:13, June 28, 2016 (UTC)


 * Valuable item lists tend to look something like: ToL - Valuables. Lanate (talk) 01:40, June 29, 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, Lanate. I feel guilty not helping. Been busy and dealing with a lot lately, but I hope to become a little more active in the near future.

Arosia (talk) 03:01, June 29, 2016 (UTC)

Untitled
How Come My Edit On The Anime Page Was Deleted. Because There's No Synopsis, Character, Episode List Section. --Carnegg (talk) 22:08, July 12, 2016 (UTC)

That's because there's no information for those sections yet. There's no need for headers with no content beneath them. As such, your edits have been reverted again.

Arosia (talk) 00:45, July 13, 2016 (UTC)

I Would Like To Help Create Those Sections (Episode List, Character List) on The Anime Page After More Episodes Have Aired.--Carnegg (talk) 01:54, July 13, 2016 (UTC)

You are more than welcome to. Just be sure to have content under the header, please.

Arosia (talk) 02:24, July 13, 2016 (UTC)

Affiliation
Hey, I made an offer of affiliation with the Tales of Link wikia since they're solely focused on Tales of Link and much better at keeping up with a constantly changing game. They accepted, so I'm going to be added links as appropriate. Lanate (talk) 03:48, July 22, 2016 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks.

Arosia (talk) 04:07, July 22, 2016 (UTC)

Untitled
Sorry for my mistake i thought i could remove it since its an old message and is from my "personal" talk page. Tesshu (talk) 22:29, July 25, 2016 (UTC)

Like many wikis, this one abides by the policy that all talk pages are more of the public domain than the personal. You are free to alter your profile how you like, as many times as you like, but comments posted on talk pages are not to removed unless they are deemed spam. In your case, the comment in question was posted by an admin, and it was intended to explain part of our policy.

This allows other admins to see that you have been given an explanation on our policy, should you choose to go that route again. Not accusing you, but I'm saying it because it's happened in the past. Under no obligation is an admin required to explain their reversion of user edits, but we do because we find it fair and ultimately want users to understand our rules before editing. What other wikis do in this regard is their business, but this is our policy.

Arosia (talk) 23:48, July 25, 2016 (UTC)

Article(s) for recurring enemies?
This thought has been on my mind for quite some time: wouldn't you mind the Wiki to have articles for recurring enemies in the series? What I mean for common enemies like Axe Beak, Polwigle, Gentleman, and such? It would have an intro on their common traits among the games they appear in, then a subsection list for game which would state more game-specific information, like location(s) where it can be fought, artes it uses, strategies for defeating them, and maybe some other info like if the game in question has for example and attachment which has the enemy or a part of it as an object to wear. Or we could start with just a page "Recurring enemies", list them there with more general information. Then at some point we could make individual articles for recurring enemies (think of them as "parent pages" but without articles for each enemy's each game appearance). Still, we would need to settle on a number of minimum appearances to count as a "recurring enemy"; I think five (5) would be good. I actually have a few more similar ideas to that, but first I'd like to know your opinion on this suggestion and from that we could discuss this matter more.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 23:38, July 27, 2016 (UTC)

Seems like a lot of work for information that can already be found elsewhere (arte pages, enemy list pages). Likewise, this wiki doesn't provide any strategy information for any reason, as it is considered to be walkthrough-based, and there are plenty of sites for that who do it a lot better than we ever could. In addition, there are so many enemies now that it would essentially be akin to when we introduced arte pages to the wiki. It's a colossal amount of work. I would rather focus on our enemy list pages, which are severely lacking because they require an extensive amount of information and coding. Individual pages for enemies would not be a priority, and I don't find it necessary at all.

Arosia (talk) 23:56, July 27, 2016 (UTC)


 * Okay, thank you for the answer.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 00:33, July 28, 2016 (UTC)

Untitled
I tried to edit Zero Dissolver dialogue for Tales of Zestria, but I am unsure what Sophie said before launching her target into the air "..... Fist!" was all I could make off. Could you confirm whether 'Aquarius' was a word that Sophie used?

"A query of fate"? I have no idea, honestly.

Arosia (talk) 08:30, August 4, 2016 (UTC)

Copyright
No grudges against you Arosia. But ALL of the content added for the Tales of Berseria pages and such have been taken from the other wiki, which in turn is VERY sly and unfair to the admin who had been working very hard on it. I would not like to upset the admin of the other wiki by mentioning this and therefor would advise that you add content of your own?--Integrity1 (talk) 15:19, August 16, 2016 (UTC)

Okay, I noticed the problem between the copy-paste situation. I have requested for the admin of the other wiki to move the content which had their roots here. Therefore, I am left to clean-up all content of which have been copied from there to here. Although, through my conversation with the other Tales wiki admin-the user mentioned it was content given to her through copy-paste in which she pasted to the wiki she runs. She also mentions that a lot of the Tales of the Tempest content had been used from en.wiki. Honestly, she said that she doesn't research on the series in English, due to being a original-Japanese gamer, to know that there are already multiple wikis created specifically for it. I am sorry, I hope you understand. I originally worked with community central and the such on another account. With this, there should be no remainder of content between the two wikis. --Integrity1 (talk) 16:38, August 16, 2016 (UTC)

Conversation continued on user's talk page.

Arosia (talk) 19:18, August 16, 2016 (UTC)

Template edits
I thought the spacing with some of the templates was a bit off and possibly not what the person who'd created them had intended, so I modified them. I apologize if I was mistaken. -TPIRFanSteve (talk) 04:17, August 18, 2016 (UTC)

I believe they're all coded as intended.

Arosia (talk) 19:27, August 18, 2016 (UTC)

Spoil/Suppress "Parent" Page
Considering Spoil/Suppress artes are kinda like those Slave artes from Zestiria, should they just be included on a single page then, like it seems to be done on this Wiki?—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 13:36, August 31, 2016 (UTC)

That'd be a question for Lanate.

Arosia (talk) 22:52, August 31, 2016 (UTC)
 * Eh, it'd make sense. Lanate (talk) 03:03, September 1, 2016 (UTC)

Mobile Images
Sorry, but can you think of a better sizing for Bravely Savior? Our standard image scaling doesn't quite work with smartphone screenshots, and I'm not entirely happy with what I put there but can't think of anything better. Lanate (talk) 03:20, September 3, 2016 (UTC)

I just halved what we normally input for arte images, and it looks fine to me. So 150px for smartphone screenshots.

Arosia (talk) 04:51, September 3, 2016 (UTC)

Pascal's mystic artes
I was wondering it for a while now: should Pascal's mystic artes, mainly Emerald Strike, Sapphiring Squad, and Ruby Inferno, be put into Category:Summons since Pascal summons spirits and together with them performs these artes.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 10:09, September 12, 2016 (UTC)

As with all things arte-related, please ask Lanate.

Arosia (talk) 22:35, September 12, 2016 (UTC)


 * I'll remember that for the future. Thanks.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 22:41, September 12, 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, why not. I'd still rather be strict with what goes in there though. Lanate (talk) 02:37, September 13, 2016 (UTC)

Valkyrie
Sorry for screwing up on Valkyrie; I double checked the versions. Originally, the Super Famicom version had a much different sprite, so I didn't consider it a cameo until PlayStation onward, and because the spell had such a different rendering, I considered the artes different. After some digging, I saw that despite the design being standardized afterward, she still retained the original spelling, so I decided to combine the artes in the same way. Lanate (talk) 02:57, September 13, 2016 (UTC)

Hello
I've decided to message you directly as I would rather not start an edit war (although you are free to do as you wish). Firstly, the reason for my edits is that both games are open-ended plot/relationship wise, as was Namco's intention. And with the exception of one character who is confirmed to still be alive in the second game, none of the other choices are explicitly ruled out. The Drama CDs, although many consider them canon (yes, I read the MoS), were never confirmed to be canon by Namco itself. The CDs are side-media developed by an external company and published by Namco for copyright/merchandising purposes, much like the OVA which also changes many things from the game's storyline. Furthermore, although the Drama CDs run with Zelos' survival, that didn't stop any of the editors from stressing that it was a player's choice in the game despite the sequel explicitly ruling out his death, so I must admit that I'm baffled that you went after my edits the way you did.

Lastly, your reverts were needlessly disrespectful. I think a simple explanation of why you reverted me, or a message on my talk page, would have sufficed.ErmacDonald (talk) 02:19, September 20, 2016 (UTC)

I did leave a message on your talk page, which has now been established, and I will make my continuing comments there.

Arosia (talk) 19:38, September 20, 2016 (UTC)

Discussion
Previous context here: User talk:ErmacDonald

Moved here so our discussion doesn't hijack someone else's talk page. It's nice to know what you think about me, Arosia. I told you from the start why I was reluctant to take adminship, and that's because I only contribute what I want in the way I want in what spare time I have. The only time I feel like stepping in is when I feel you're gone too far, and if that makes me a passive white knight, so what? It hurts absolutely no one to take a measured response to well-meaning edits. If you just snap at someone, then why would they stick around? In the end, a wiki is a volunteer effort spurred by the time and goodwill of all participants, and that kind of tone means that no one's going to stay. So of course I'm going to play the good cop if that means that someone who can contribute will maybe stay around to contribute, because god knows no one else will. Me spewing out invective isn't going to get anywhere. In the end, however, I'm just going to take issue with the idea that it's my fault that people get snappy on this wiki, because maybe you need to take a long look in the mirror too. Lanate (talk) 02:26, September 21, 2016 (UTC)

Duly noted.

Arosia (talk) 03:00, September 21, 2016 (UTC)

App for both of our wikis
Hello Arosia :)

I talked to one of the Wikia staffs and there is a chance that both of our wikis can get a combined app. It would just be called "Tales of Wiki" and the users could switch between the english and the german version. It's not a problem that we have articles that you don't have and vice versa.

In order to get the app you need to fill in the Curated Main Page - you can do that from the Main Page. If you would like to get the combined app just fill that in and give me a positive respone so I can show it to the Wikia staff :)

Kind regards ~ Vanyar ~ (talk) 13:16, October 5, 2016 (UTC)

Hi. I've had an extremely busy day, so sorry for the delayed reply. I am fine with this, of course. I'll reply more thoroughly when I have the time. Lanate, thoughts?

Arosia (talk) 08:53, October 6, 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not opposed either. Lanate (talk) 03:42, October 7, 2016 (UTC)

Curated main page?

Arosia (talk) 03:49, October 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * Do you ask what the Curated Main Page is? Well, the Wikia staff told me it is called like that in english. If you go to the main page there should be the "Edit" button and right next to that there should also be the Edit button for the Curated Main Page. If it isn't called "Curated" maybe it's "Mobile Main Page" or something like that :o
 * ~ Vanyar ~ (talk) 17:29, October 7, 2016 (UTC)

That's what I thought. We have that, but I'm unsure of what to even change, as it has some sort of default format. Lanate?

Arosia (talk) 19:18, October 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * Maybe this page can help you :)
 * But it's also possible that someone already edited the Mobile Main Page. If you think that it's fine as it is now then you don't have to edit it (I can't look at it so I can't give you any tips^^).
 * ~ Vanyar ~ (talk) 23:24, October 7, 2016 (UTC)

I need Lanate.

Arosia (talk) 01:30, October 8, 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm at a loss as well as to what you're referring to. Lanate (talk) 18:56, October 8, 2016 (UTC)

I think the button only appears in the Wikia layout.

Arosia (talk) 19:38, October 8, 2016 (UTC)
 * I switched to Wikia and clicked around, but I had no clue what I was looking at with the resulting pop-up or what still needed to be done. Lanate (talk) 19:40, October 8, 2016 (UTC)

Same.

Arosia (talk) 20:59, October 8, 2016 (UTC)

Hello Aroisa and Lanate, when you look at your main page, there should be a button next to the "edit" button, that is called "Mobile Main Page". This help page should explain what needs to be done. Once the main page is curated, I can request an app for you. What specifically are your questions? Thanks, ForestFairy (Hilfe Forum | Blog) 18:23, October 10, 2016 (UTC)
 * NGL, that was one of the more needlessly painful actions, having to manually delete one by one each of the incorrect sections. What really should be able to be done with a single click needed several; feels like going backward in UX design. Anyway, I set it up so that the categories mirrored the five main sections on the main page, Arosia. Lanate (talk) 03:49, October 11, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Lanate. I've been really busy lately and haven't had time to fool with it.

Arosia (talk) 04:56, October 11, 2016 (UTC)

TVTropes portraits
Can I ask how you make those? There's a couple more I want to make for Tales of Link but want to retain consistency; I still can't figure out how to get such a clean border. Lanate (talk) 03:00, October 14, 2016 (UTC)

I use and Paint's "Transparent selection" feature under "Select" to crop the image neatly into the frame. If you'd like me to do it I can, but if you make them yourself, just please go ahead and throw them into the "Arosia's Portraits" category so that all the created ones are in a single place.

Arosia (talk) 04:33, October 14, 2016 (UTC)
 * I think I figured it out. Thanks! Lanate (talk) 05:41, October 14, 2016 (UTC)

Screenshots
I am wondering: for arte screenshots should the characters wear their default outfits with no attachments, or are minor deviations, mainly an alternate color fine? I ask because I mainly play ToZ with alternate colors and an attachment or two on a character and I wonder if you also require character appearance consistency on arte images.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 10:37, October 20, 2016 (UTC)

Oh, so you're taking those screenshots yourself. I honestly don't care who's using the arte or what they're wearing. As long as it's a good representation of the move, it's fine. Since these are your own screenshots, can you go back to stating that in the source? What I have in mind: "Taken and uploaded to this wiki by Kaimi."

Arosia (talk) 22:54, October 20, 2016 (UTC)
 * Just popping in to agree with Arosia. So long as the arte itself is clear, it doesn't matter what costumes or attachments the characters are wearing. Lanate (talk) 02:39, October 21, 2016 (UTC)


 * Okay, thanks for the input. ;) —Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 14:48, October 21, 2016 (UTC)

So
You can thank Allesteiler Wiki for these beautiful TotA arte images I'm about to upload. Also, a friend let me borrow a VITA + ToH-R, so expect some much-needed love to such pages in the near future.

Arosia (talk) 00:26, October 22, 2016 (UTC)

Friend is being nice enough to let me borrow PSP + ToE as well.

Arosia (talk) 20:39, October 27, 2016 (UTC)