User talk:Mayu Miyuki


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Tales of Eternia Online arte/item lists?
I decided to do a bit of searching for any possible data for ToEO, which is obviously very hard to do after the only decent JP wiki closed down over two years ago. After some agressive google-fu, I came across an archive of a Futaba/2ch style BBS site, on which one person posted what seems to be complete lists of artes and +skills, weapons, equips, consumable tools, and what I think/hope are materials.

Then again, these lists are nothing more than lists of names. There is no data attached to these things, like the usual level or TP costs, but it's something. A marvelous amount of something, given the circumstances. This is the most complete thing that I have found anywhere on the Internet, but it is, of course, a listing of things on what amounts to a typical forum or imageboard. Still, I don't see any reason to question what is here, as long as it's cited for what it is. I imagine we might be able to observe TP costs and hit counts from watching the videos that exist on Youtube and Nico Nico, as few as they are, but that could give us erroneous data. (Search "TOEO" on moontube for a decent number of party videos.)

Yes, I did all of this searching instead of completing the Graces stuff I was committed to working on just last week. Perhaps I'm showing my short attention span again, but those Graces title pages require too much effort... and this is new and interesting! Just to be complete, I want to make at least the arte lists for the five classes, despite the dozens of "?" that are bound to fill the tables. I mean, ToEO is the only game that has received no love whatsoever on this wiki, naturally ignoring the far more obscure mobile games, and I want to give some representation to the only PC-Windows Tales game in existance.

Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 00:42, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Need Help
Nathbud789 again if you everyneed help looking up info just leave me a message. Think of this as a way of fixing my error of new articles too much. If you think I should add one just let me know because until then I ain't doin no new ones. Peace out!

No Status Effects?
Just out of curriosity is it a good idea to delete that random new page? There are many different effects in each game and just wanted to know why it seems "obvious" if you could leave a message on my page that would be awsome-Nathbud789


 * Rather than spread out a conversation across multiple pages again, I'll answer you here. Status ailments are not consistent throughout all of the games - specific games have specific conditions or bonuses, some of which do not appear in other games, such as Penetrate, Flash, and Downsize. This sort of information should be listed on the page dedicated to the battle systems in the full series, as it does not warrant a separate page for itself.


 * Furthermore, what you did post is nothing more than a generic sentence that adds nothing that wouldn't be common sense to people who are genuinely interested in the topic, hence the "obvious" nature of what you posted. It's no different from spam, and it will be deleted immediately.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 22:21, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Destiny and Eternia
Hello I just wanted an opinion if you would recommend Tales of Destiny(PS1) and Tales of Eternia(Tales of Destiny 2). I have every other tales game in America other than these hard to find games. Sure I'd like to play the PS2 version of destiny but I only understand a few japanese words and I don't import. If you could put a message on my talk page that would be awesome. Sincearly - Nathbud789


 * I will always recommend any Tales game, even the mediocre ones like Tempest, perhaps (and I still enjoyed Tempest!). Penamesolen already posted a page where I gave my thoughts about Eternia, but it doesn't hurt to repeat how I think Eternia is an excellent game, and one of the best of the series. And as for the original Destiny, it's an okay game, not particularly memorable considering all of the RPGs that were out at the time. The story in its original form is rather lackluster, and the plot twists are obvious. Characters aren't very well developed compared to later Tales games, which is a major problem in a series that values character interaction. But its battle system basically represents the true origin of the LMBS (Phantasia SNES is drastically different, and much closer to Star Ocean's battle systems due to the whole Wolfteam/tri-Ace thing), and if you can stand giant head sprites and spell pauses like in Phantasia, then this game will be no problem.


 * There's nothing else for me to say, just get the games and play them for yourself. Form your own opinions, and don't rely on others to make your gaming choices for you.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 19:07, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

You've an administrator (sysop)!
Okay, you know have the same administrative privileges that I have, besides adding other users to special users groups. There should be help pages on the wiki or around somewhere to tell you how to do things. Hope this helps.--Imaginationac (talk) (requests) (email) 23:36, January 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * Congrats, Mayu! --Zackheart 20:27, January 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * I can't help but extremely agree with this motion. Congratulations indeed, Mayu. All the more reasons for me to keep the small amount of gruntwork I do. Let's hope you make the wiki shine. [=
 * Omio(talk)¹²: You say that the Gary Sue is first, yet the not-so-bad character isn't on the poll? WTF, NAMCO?! 20:14, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

ToEO Icons
Crap Mayu, I forgot the "ToEO - " preface on all of the images I just uploaded. I think admins can move files, so if you can move them to the right name I'd be very grateful. Lanate (talk) 00:03, January 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * I kinda wish there was a batch function, but it's done now. I didn't even realize I had a move option for files, so I think I'll be making some use of it to clean up the images and unused file categories sometime later this week.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 00:29, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Now you can tell me what to do next!
Okay, so I'm done with the attack and support skill lists for Tales of Eternia Online, and since I'm ignoring the passives for now, I'm open to work on a pretty wide range of things here. What are my options? Roughly in order of interest:


 * Take your usual month-long break already, Mayu! Stop working so hard to make me feel bad... ;_;
 * update the Tales of Hearts arte pages (rewrite the source code, redesign the tables to be like Shing's page, add in or fix a LOT of missing and wrong info that continues to serve as an oft-cited example of why people think this wiki is a terrible place)
 * update the Tales of Eternia arte pages (rewrite the source code, add JP names into section headers, even though these pages really don't need to be worked on at all)
 * sort moar images into proper categories to prepare for a future deletion/renaming spree!
 * finish the (existing) Tales of Graces alias pages (translate and add more stuff so we might have them done by the time a localization comes)
 * update the Tales of Vesperia arte pages (fix the pages I didn't finish and upload due to being lazy (Rita/Karol/Raven/Judith, maybe FlynnBox360? I forgot), resulting in someone adding in the new PS3 artes months later using the outdated source code while the work I did finish goes partially to waste!)
 * do the ToEO passives anyway!

In before only one person replies.

Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 20:00, January 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, you really deserve a month break after all you've done for this wiki that's for sure, so if you did that, nobody here would complain (maybe except those who are lost without your advices, like me :P). I'd mostly suggest that, after the break, if you really want to take one of those options, it should be some of the newer ones. Eternia Online is shut down, so it can wait for now, but, as you said, it would be easier if Graces' pages were ready for a possibly loalization (just in case that magazine actually speaks the truth, which doesn't make sense because Europe hardly would do that because of the money). But, you decide, really. I still think that you should take a break if you want to.


 * And if I wasn't supposed to answer, I'm sorry, I just took the title as I could.


 * Penamesolen 20:20, January 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * Normally I'd suggest the Eternia or Hearts stuff, but really, I think you deserve a break, since you've been doing alot lately. But like said above, it's ultimately up to you. So uh, good... luck? Bah, I'm no good at this.

--Zackheart 20:24, January 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Go ahead through that chart, and don't worry about double-redirects - I'm usually about fixing them when I get a chance to - if I'm not working on the regular ToE stuff. That's if you don't want to stop at all. IMO, I agree with the other two in taking a break. Putting up THAT much content is a pain in the arse.
 * Omio(talk)¹²: You say that the Gary Sue is first, yet the not-so-bad character isn't on the poll? WTF, NAMCO?! 20:17, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reply to comment on User Page.
It's okay. Even minor flaws have to be fixed. It's only a part of my role.

I have it there so I can test ideas I have in wiki markup - because I'm still massively learning it. As is, I'm using the 'small' tag for the first time here.

It's due to be expanded. That's why I still have it under my username space. When it's ready to be launched into the public, I'll ask you first anyways - I'm not about to make something that isn't good to use. =]

Skills, Artes, Techs, there's a whack of names depending on the game, but I'll keep to whatever game it is, in consistency - if I ever manage to actually make a whole technique page. My skill and luck says 'no', but you can't count your chickens before they hatch.

Penamesolean is intending on getting rid of the template she has up when she gets Microsoft Word again - which is why I just backed it up, and accredited her. As I said earlier, I'll probably not really use it much, if at all, bar for maybe reference. Just tag me when you have an official rule/template up, and I'd be happy to murder it.

Alright, I'll remember to ask people from now if if I want to link something like that. =] [Going to go off to pester Penamesolen about the template thing.]

Yeah, see, I had no idea of the EXISTANCE of the poll. And I'm more of making an RP-ing bash, and I decided to stick to Tales of Characters. My intended bash is that 'Almost everyone likes people that are uber-powerful and horrible to withstand.' And I'm trying to find a good character that's not on the poll, and is a playable character, but is weak in comparison to almost anyone else on the poll. Keele and Reid are on the list, though, so I'm happy - though Reid's a bit moddy. =/

...Yes, I'm a fan of Keele. >_>'

Omio(talk)»Belt«: You say that the Gary Sue is first, yet the not-so-bad character isn't on the poll? WTF, NAMCO?! 15:23, January 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, but this makes my page too long. Can you just keep discussions confined to one page, instead of bouncing back and forth between two users' pages? I'd say these things on your page, but I'm not going to delete something that is already posted on my talk page, and I'm not going to drag these words to your page myself. Context be damned.


 * My entire point was to stop worrying so much about infrastructure, and actually do something in terms of contributing to the pages that exist. If resources within the wiki do need to be listed, the forum is a better place for it, so ALL of us can contribute to it, rather than just having one user who hasn't done anything since August of last year to compile everything himself. But the resources listings already exist at that Special Pages link, so what's the point? Instead, worry about the actual content articles, or help out with any of the things I have listed in the previous section on my talk page.


 * Everything else, I'm just not going to reply to it for the sake of emphasizing the last sentence of the previous paragraph.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 18:47, January 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * @Omio: Actually, my school computer has Windows, so I could have taken off the whole arte-whatever ever singe September. I just figured out that it was easier working with the arte pages with the layout from here instead from my Windows-page, so I kept it and decided to be too lazy to take away the notice about deleting it.


 * Penamesolen 21:43, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay. Then I'll remove the duplicate on my namespace and the links to it, then. >_>' Feel free to snip this convo out, Mayu. I'll make a subspace for long conversations so no other page gets swamped. [Whoops. ^^;]
 * Omio(talk)»Belt«: You say that the Gary Stu is first, yet the not-so-bad character isn't on the poll? WTF, NAMCO?! 15:59, January 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * It's not that the conversation itself is too long, conversations are like that. But the text was posted elsewhere already, and duplicating it here just speeds up the amount of time this talk page will last before I have to make a third archived link at the top of this page to allow myself to clear the current page. I'd like to have that done on a yearly basis if at all possible. I am not going to delete full discussions on any page, that's bad for archival.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 17:02, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Who is Rimul?
I figure I'd ask you since you have a good knowledge of the series. Just who is she. I've seen several videos with Kyle fighting her. User:Nathbud789 3:44 P.M, January 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Kyle's cousin from Lienea, daughter of Lilith and some guy from Neuestadt who married her in one of the Drama CDs for Destiny PSX. She is the inheritor of Lilith's original fighting style and Light-elemental affinity, directly influencing Yuan's abilities in the next game in the series. She fights Kyle during the final stage of the arena at Neuestadt in Destiny 2, and she even receives a cut-in in the PSP version of the game. To be honest, she doesn't have any relevance in the story whatsoever, and her presence in the game is a reference of Lilith's abilities before she was turned into a silly joke character in Destiny PS2. But I love Rimul for that, and she is by far the most unrecognized character with any fighting ability at all in the series.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 21:12, January 28, 2010 (UTC)