User talk:Kaimi

Welcome
Hi, welcome to ! Thanks for your edit to the CC page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Mayu Miyuki (Talk) 22:15, 2012 November 5

I'm morbidly curious what you think this "information" is
>Doesn't own a single game, but I'm watching Tales of Graces f walkthrough and noticed some lack of 'information'.


 * Before you even attempt to edit the page, let me set some parameters. Chain Capacity only relates to arte costs and nothing else. It has zero involvement in the ability to chain artes in any order - this is the arte chaining system of a given game and is not synonymous its arte cost system, and so it is considered to be a gameplay mechanic. Both of these things are also strictly separate from the concept of Style-Shift LMBS, which I must emphasize only relates to movement on the battle field and style changes. What, pray tell, is the "lack of 'information'" that you think needs to be added, given how each topic is separate and should not be confused? If you dare to think that the arte chaining system and the arte cost system are parallel, I must emphasize that every system has been paired with the opposite of what you might think to be true. Believe me, I know what I am talking about when I made the Chain Capacity page, in an attempt to STOP misunderstandings like this. Chain Capacity is a combo limiter. Nothing more, nothing less.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 22:24, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

SORRY
I completely misread your username and thought it was Kikonu, a problem user who left and will hopefully remain gone. No hard feelings.

Arosia (talk) 01:03, July 28, 2014 (UTC)

Community support
Please be sure to read this and post your support if you'd like.

Arosia (talk) 23:46, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

Look at my edits
I am fine with you creating these artes pages, but you have to adhere to our format, which includes placing at the bottom of every page. These descriptions you are adding are poorly worded and lacking in necessary punctuation. Unless someone else provides better descriptions, these pages will be deleted.

Arosia (talk) 00:12, September 20, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Quote Corrections
No problem! I was curious about Rowen's incantation so I adjusted the sound mixing (SFX are wayyy too loud by default >_>) and tested them all myself. I'm almost 100% sure mine are correct, but I'll probably test them again soon just to be sure.

I'm probably going to hang around this wiki for a bit since it's lacking a lot of "fluff" like incantations and stuff. --Ongyoki (talk) 18:03, September 20, 2014 (UTC)

If you're creating pages...
...just thought I'd mention that Jiao is missing a page, and while I don't want anything half-assed, I would like him to have a page so that we have all of the Chimeriad in some shape or form. I'm by no means telling you to create his page; I'm merely making note of it. If I could, I would create the page myself. Also, keep in mind that you are free to use the information from this timeline, which is a credible source. If you do use any of the information, however, be sure to rewrite the information in your own words and don't cite Taleslations since they prefer not to be cited on wikis.

Arosia (talk) 23:37, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

Tales of Hearts R localization
Pages will be moved and adjusted in due time, but for convenience purposes, use the move request log rather than spam the talk pages. That's why it exists.

Arosia (talk) 22:25, November 13, 2014 (UTC)

Arte pages
Stop creating them because you're piling unnecessary work on Lanate, and he already does enough as it is on this wiki. That, or do as he mentioned and create them without the need for him to add what you left out. Lord knows I don't know what all to add, so it really puts a lot of work on him. He's not mean like I am, so that's why I'm telling you bluntly.

Arosia (talk) 06:16, January 30, 2015 (UTC)

Sandbox abuse
I know you are trying really hard to find loopholes in our rules. And that is why I want to make them even more strictly exorbitant, to get rid of the loopholes. The user sandbox pages are only meant to be used as supplementary information repositories that are yet to be integrated into existing pages. This applies primarily to existing quotes and translations that have not been added to the individual arte pages as of the time they were created, as you will see on my own sandbox pages. (And do note that this refers to existing material, meaning the things that have already been published, not that pre-"localized" Zestiria arte name nonsense that you want to upload despite the policy that we will not acknowledge these arte names because they are still in development and subject to change. A certain Mabizerk is perfectly adept at making these lists himself on a non-wiki venue where it is more appropriate and conducive to discussion. It does not belong here. This also applies to every other term you keep changing within the articles just because they aren't artes or character names and are therefore not as strictly monitored. That seraphim stuff, for instance. Why can't it just stay as the official Japanese term until release, when names and terms can be properly confirmed not through trailers or videos, but through actual gameplay. Once again, loophole abuse that needs to stop at this very moment. I partially want to go through the pages and restore all Japanese names, to be kept unchanged until a proper English release is made, except for the fact that I give zero shits about Zestiria as a game and don't care enough about it to do this kind of monitoring.) Alternatively, the sandbox pages can be used for code experimentation without affecting the appearance of other pages, which is the actual real purpose for this MediaWiki system implementation.

The sandbox is not intended to be used to create whole articles that function as whole articles with the purpose of being whole articles, while avoiding possible deletion just because they are not put on the main namespace. In fact, I want to rage-delete the page right now because it is no different from spamming this content onto the main namespace anyway. In fact, you weren't the first user who tried this. Another user got banned for spamming writing that is literally on the same level as "Halflife: Fulllife Consequences" as multiple articles placed on sandbox to avoid deletion. But just because it is in the sandbox, it doesn't make it exempt from rules or common decency. But I'll let this one stand so that proper discussion on this matter can be held, since otherwise you will complain that it's just admin fiat if I actually enact anything even with the kind of justifications I always provide. It's times like this where I wish I was still just a normal user, so that I can perform normal user fiat instead and skip having to overexplain myself to people who don't even bother to read what I write.

If you have articles that are in an incomplete state, do yourself a favor and save it offline, like on your computer, and use the "Preview" button whenever you want to see how these pages look when they are published. With this, you are doing yourself a favor by not causing problems like this for anyone else who might feel compelled to edit your text and scrap out all of the unnecessary words and incorrect syntax before you are even done with the page, forcing them to do this incrementally as you add to the page itself, supposing you ever intend to do so. Although, judging by the edit summary you added when you created the page, it seems as if you want others to expand the page instead, without you exerting any effort aside from creating the skeleton outline and maybe adding little tidbits and minor trivia and other inane babble. This is just like those game pages you and others keep wanting to create from the moment they are announced, instead of waiting for something tangible to actually write about in any significant way. I'm not sure if you noticed, but we might be outlawing this entirely thanks to these kinds of obnoxious attempts to create skeleton pages filled with minor and ultimately irrelevant info since the only truly necessary content, the story, is missing because the game is not yet released!

And of course I would spend all of this time writing this out instead of quickly going back to sleep after baby stuff. z____z;;

Audrey Belrose is my spirit animal. (talk) 16:52, August 3, 2015 (UTC)

Tales of Link artes
Thanks for the heads-up on dealing with ToLink artes in relation to official arte pages, I wasn't quite sure how to go about things. Since I'm playing through mainly for artes I'll keep my own list and stick to updating the ToLink pages verbatim.

Allenpergallon (talk) 17:17, April 3, 2016 (UTC)

Arte page focus?
Hey, thanks for all the ToZ arte pages. We really did need them. However, what we also really need are ToG arte pages, and since I noticed you've played the game, you could consider making that a pet project. The main reason I suggest this is because we actually have a lot of images for ToG artes, and I'm gradually working on emptying the Unused photos repository as much as possible so that it doesn't look like we're uploading tons of images for no reason. Thanks again.

Arosia (talk) 04:10, July 29, 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't see a problem with that. I'll get to it. Also, should Accelerate Mode artes? abilities? get their own pages since Hubert's got their own, or Hubert's is en exemption from the rule since it appears as a freely usable arte in ToZ?—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 11:43, July 29, 2016 (UTC)

First problem: "Tornado Blade" from ToG is not the same "Tornado Blade" from Xillias (single user vs. linked arte). How do we name them?—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 15:18, July 29, 2016 (UTC)

Not sure on your first question. Wait for Lanate to get back from vacation to answer that. The second question: If they have the same Japanese name, our policy is that they get the same page.

Arosia (talk) 17:33, July 29, 2016 (UTC)


 * ToG "Tornado Blade" has a different Japanese name from ToX/2 "Tornado Blade".—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 17:39, July 29, 2016 (UTC)

Oh. Okay, well. I'd say "Tornado Blade" for ToG and "Tornado Blade (Linked Arte)" for ToX/2. We'll see what Lanate says when he gets back.

Arosia (talk) 17:42, July 29, 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that, except it'd be "Tornado Blade (linked arte)". Lanate (talk) 05:09, August 3, 2016 (UTC)

Just when I was beginning to like you...
I find this. I am nowhere near as strict as Mayu, and I have done a great deal to improve this wiki. I fully allow users to create pages so long as they aren't half-assed. Care to elaborate on how we're not developing? And when have I ever stopped you from creating pages? This wiki is the most developed Tales resource in the English language, so I have good reason to oppose other English-language Tales wikis. As for the plagiarizing you so proudly pointed out, it was on 2-3 pages. I misunderstood Taleslations's policy, but as you can see from the home page, we have settled the matter.

Our "strictness" is not why the wiki "suffers" as you say, and this has been addressed multiple times in the past. The series simply isn't as large and popular enough to draw in an editing user base as profound as other series. If you have such a problem with this wiki, then why are you still here? A new wiki will only divide the community more. You will not find a hidden group of users waiting for a lenient Tales wiki to come along. This is what we have, and I have taken great strides to ensure we are well-liked and appreciated in the community. There have been few problems over the past two years or so since I became admin, and I don't recall ever being unfair to you. I realize the post is a few months old, but it's good to know where you stand.

Arosia (talk) 05:44, August 8, 2016 (UTC)


 * First of all, the strictness of this Wiki how I see it is how we could have a bit more "other" articles, like for recurring equipment pieces or monsters since they are a series staple. Another is character articles, mainly how "game announced, but unreleased => can't have an article". I can understand that constantly updating articles as information emerge for the new content may not be liked by the staff much ("We're not a news site," or something like that I heard coming from here at some point). And well, I mainly stick to creating arte articles since they're the easiest and safest IMO to create mainly because I don't really know how it would be treated if I was adding only fragments to characters' articles regarding their "History" sections because they wouldn't probably be "half-arsed". I realize I am not the easiest person to work with, sometimes maybe asking really unnecessary stuff at times and such, but I intend to still work on this Wiki, mainly because of how recognized it is. I admit I had a proposition to join other Tales of Wiki but I firmly believe that staying with this one will be the best option.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 10:08, August 8, 2016 (UTC)

I have already explained why recurring whatever would not be ideal. Want to ask Lanate? I guarantee he will say the same thing, as well as probably provide an even better explanation. As for characters in games unreleased, how do you expect much at all to be written about them? What we know about them is essentially included in their brief bio on the game page. What would be the point? In that same regard, everything is subject to change. As soon as the game is released, I will allow it. Until then, no. It's a hassle.

You are free to add any amount of anything to existing articles. That's how they grow and develop. Starting a page off that way, though? One or two sentences? No. I require at least the CharInfo template and a paragraph (see Ayla). That's about the bare minimum that will be allowed, and I would really prefer more. I did that with certain characters because nothing would come of them any other way. Anyway, I have to cut this short because I'm busy.

Arosia (talk) 00:14, August 9, 2016 (UTC)

Hi
Please answer/address my recent questions/statements in edit summaries/on talk pages concerning your edits when you have the chance. Thank you.

Arosia (talk) 20:22, August 24, 2016 (UTC)


 * Regarding "Blast Gauge": I don't think either "Battle Action(s)", "Rejuvenation", "Banish Blast(s)", and "Switch Blast(s)" require to be links at the moment since they only appear in one game only, and I don't think redirects would be very needed; maybe Lanate has a different opinion on the matter.
 * Regarding "Infernal Blast": I'm mainly basing the information regarding ToLink stuff on what we have on our Wiki, userspace included. The Largo unit carrying Infernal Blast is not (yet) available in the global release, hence no localization listed there.
 * —Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 21:01, August 24, 2016 (UTC)

In that case, I made changes to two Asbel moves that need to be rectified because I assumed you had made an oversight, but I don't remember which two.

Arosia (talk) 22:36, August 24, 2016 (UTC)

Never mind. I found them.

Arosia (talk) 22:38, August 24, 2016 (UTC)
 * Probably not? Battle Actions possibly, and that'd just be a redirect to the data page. The latter three are essentially just special artes, and the first is just a fancy name for healing spells that cost BG. Lanate (talk) 00:21, August 25, 2016 (UTC)

If you're interested
ToG and ToX arte images are the only ones left in the Unused photos repository. Since I know you've played both games and enjoy creating arte pages, you can dish them out if you want, and I'll do any cleaning up necessary. My next personal project is ToX pages, so I'll be helping as well.

Arosia (talk) 22:02, January 6, 2017 (UTC)
 * I'll try to help you with it, but I have some ongoing projects on other Wikis, plus some current real life tasks so that may not be as quick as we'd both want it. Still, I think that when the demo for Berseria will come next week, I'll probably go create articles for that game to help "unload" in the future.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 22:14, January 6, 2017 (UTC)

Okay, thanks.

Arosia (talk) 22:25, January 6, 2017 (UTC)

Allusions
I'd like to eventually integrate these into page extensions, such as is currently done with location descriptions and certain galleries. My issue is that I want a better way of displaying such links on the main page, as I'm not fond of using the "Notes" section for this purpose. Perhaps a makeshift template embedded somewhere.

Arosia (talk) 06:58, February 4, 2017 (UTC)


 * Honestly, it'd be a more efficient way to have a just a one big template IMO since having many navigational templates for different aspects of a single is a bit of "all over the place". Also, I'm glad your considering putting those Allusions pages into mainspace. There's just so many thing in Berseria alone that are references to a lot of things.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 09:44, February 4, 2017 (UTC)

Yes that's what I was meaning, a single template. I'll mess around with it sometime today.

Arosia (talk) 20:02, February 4, 2017 (UTC)

For characters, I added gallery links to their individual templates. For worlds and games (also Julio and Caro since they don't have individual templates), I created makeshift templates and embedded them at the bottom of the pages. They can be used for gallery, location description, or allusion links.

Arosia (talk) 23:12, February 4, 2017 (UTC)

ToB images

 * Hey. Not to be rude, but I actually already have official artwork of all characters from the World Guidance book.

I'm really just waiting to upload them until the pages are created, as I'm trying to avoid unused photos piling up again. Feel free to upload artes and locations, but I have characters covered with official artwork.

Arosia (talk) 20:29, February 10, 2017 (UTC)

So
How long do you intend to keep this post up? Obviously, any advertisement of those wikis is a lost cause. In fact, I'm currently writing up an appeal to have both closed, as the Tales of Wiki is dead and Talespedia is dying.

Arosia (talk) 05:12, February 11, 2017 (UTC)


 * Well, until I delete my Tumblr, I suppose. Just because I'm presenting my opinions there that you might not like doesn't mean I'm required to delete it. When/If any of those two wikis will be closed, I'll just delete links to them.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 08:16, February 11, 2017 (UTC)

I wouldn't have a problem with it if it weren't for the fact that you're spreading false information. The issue with Taleslations was not one of plagiarism, and it's not for you, or anyone else for that matter, to know what it was that we discussed. We have a very solid relationship with Taleslations now, thanks to me. I removed the "official" wording from the Tales of Wiki, and I would say I'm extremely lenient on page creation. The only time I don't allow it is if it's like a single sentence or formatted entirely wrong.

There's not even a remote chance that another English-language wiki could match the information we have on this one at this point, so obviously, my stance will always be that other wikis for this series should not exist. It's not incredibly popular outside of Japan, and creating alternative wikis will only divide an already small community. And don't think I'll ever stop administering this wiki. In the immortal words of Mayu, the day I stop editing this wiki, you can pretty much assume I got hit by a car or something. All I'm saying is your "opinions" are baseless and tactless.

Arosia (talk) 08:30, February 11, 2017 (UTC)


 * I can write an emendation at the bottom of that post speaking about my false assumptions. Wouldn't just deleting that post be denying of myself? I'd rather be a person who admits to an error than pretend it didn't happen and explain what has changed since them. And I'm very grateful that you've became lenient on page creation since I think it helped at least a tiny bit to bring to the wiki like one or two people I think, even though they mostly deal with arte pages, but still it's something.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 08:41, February 11, 2017 (UTC)

ToB locations
Is your list complete, and is it copied verbatim from the game? Order and everything?

Arosia (talk) 08:08, February 13, 2017 (UTC)


 * From what I know I lack only two locations: EX dungeon and the last Class 4 Administrative Zone, but aside of that the list is likely complete.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 08:22, February 13, 2017 (UTC)

Categories question
I am sure I misplaced Earth Dragon Fang as a Martial Combo Arte, and I can't delete it now. Does that mean that only the admins can change the categories?

HiroIzungo17 (talk) 15:39, August 6, 2017 (UTC)

It's been fixed now. On a side note, both of you be sure to remember that it's "In-Game Descriptions and Battle Quotes". I've noticed this a few times now.

Arosia (talk) 22:26, August 6, 2017 (UTC)