User:Penamesolen

Concerning arte name links and related formatting
(I'm not exactly used to greeting people, but the last person I commented to made a big deal out of it, so I'll leave it at that with the "welcome" template. =P )

I notice that you edited Richter's artes list page so most of his attacks (the ones without known localized names) have had their links removed. While this would make sense normally since Richter uses attacks that are exclusive to himself (and therefore all of them have no articles written yet), I would prefer to maintain the links for the sake of consistency with other similar pages.

I also noticed that Emil's artes page was edited in the same way yesterday, so I should use that as an example of what I have in mind. Right now, the listed artes on his page show a mix of Japanese and English versions. I wish to have only the confirmed localized names displayed, and all others displayed as their Japanese romanizations if they are not confirmed, everything with links to their associated articles (even though quite a handful of them don't exist yet). With all honesty, this is not what I intended at the beginning, since another editor added these confirmed names as the links - instead, I had planned to have even the confirmed names listed below all other arte name translation info, like I did with Vesperia's data before the localized release, since the articles are tagged to emphasize that this game has not been released in English yet, so all data should follow the Japanese release and linked accordingly.

Either way, it's better to keep the links, since I make it a point to provide redirects for the Japanese arte names so the correct English pages are referenced. If we remove the links, this kind of referencing is lost, and in games that have not received any translations whatsoever such as Tales of Innocence, their associated artes lists would not have a way to provide details like comparisons to other games, ie. Spada's Senkuureppa, which does have an article for the attack. Removing the link removes the article from view, and changing the name to "Light Spear" makes no sense since Innocence will never be localized (though there is a fan-made English patch in progress; the Innocence artes lists will make note of the names that are used once the patch is released).

Whatever the case, the links should be kept. Although I prefer to maintain Japanese arte names only until the English localization is released, I don't really have a problem with replacing some of them with the current confirmed names, as long as everything remains linked. After all, the localization has already shown to have some discrepancies with past current localized names - "Focus" is apparently changed to "Fiend Fusion", which makes no sense no matter how I look at it but whatever.

Sorry for the rambling, and welcome to the Tales Wiki.

Mayu Miyuki 20:23, 18 October 2008 (UTC)