User talk:Mayu Miyuki


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Tales of Phantasia (iOS)
So, yeah, I tried my best to play and gather info. Unfortunately, Namco destroyed the game as I'm pretty sure the fanbase already or will know. I can't get past the Aqueducts and the entire experience is too frustrating combined with blatant money-grab abuses. So, yeah, I can't see myself going any farther. Lanate (talk) 05:28, January 31, 2014 (UTC)


 * Well yeah, what I've seen from comments about this game when it was released in Japan was that it's on par with GBA as a terribad port which manages to make things worse than the versions they are based on. Quite possibly the only salvaging factor would be the translation, and the removal of eldritch marsupials from Australia is already an improvement. I don't like touch screen devices so I won't ever have a chance to play this game (or Plants vs Zombies 2), so I guess it's up to whoever is willing to endure bad game porting design and silly microtransactions in a non-MMO just to make it playable. Go figure, the versions that are denounced by the fanbase as being bad/inferior/beta tend to be the ones that are localized, Graces exempted. (inb4 hearts r gets localized as a port to ouya console)


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 05:51, January 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm at the Valhalla War sequence and the app crashes whenever I rest for the night. I honestly can't continue, as I'm nowhere near good enough at navigation to clear the entire battlefield in one in-game day.  It's freaking frustrating.  I left the arte names that I have so far on one of my personal pages. Lanate (talk) 03:29, February 13, 2014 (UTC)

Winxfan's Presa Article
I know you and Winxfan have a history and I understand that you’re wary of him. I’m not here to comment on that – it’s none of my business.

I just wanted to tell you that I’ve been helping him proofread his article over the past few days, and we’ve reworked it to remove all speculation and inaccuracies and make it fit with the MoS (or our understanding of it, at the very least). It’s a pretty decent and complete article; I think you should give it a chance, despite your initial misgivings.

Have a good day, Yume hanabi (talk) 05:51, February 7, 2014 (UTC)

Just publish it, and I'll fix it.

Moviebaby (talk) 06:57, February 7, 2014 (UTC)


 * Sorry for the delayed reply. Regarding the latest incarnation of that article, I glanced over it briefly and it did read very differently than it had literally every other time before now. But I imagine that you edited it to the point that it is no longer Winxfan's work - rather, it might as well be your own. That was part of our misgivings against Winxfan in general, since everything he posts needs to be edited so heavily that it no longer resembles anything he wrote or intended to convey. And we tried to allow these things after fixing them ourselves multiple times in the past couple of years until the process became infuriating and distracting. And it doesn't help that Winxfan is a spammer with an "I'll keep posting it until you like it" mentality, and he spam-blogs to gloat about the most minor of his "accomplishments" to boot. The only pages that are ever retained of his are the ones that have transformed into something certifiably non-Winxfan, as this one would be too. That's why I recommend that you would post it yourself so the page history would reflect effort where it is due, but it's up to you. If not, I'll just restore the page later then, after I get home from another late night because fml irl.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 06:28, February 8, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry to get back to you so late, I got sick in the meanwhile ^^;

Thanks for your understanding. Credit where it's due, though: he edited it himself following my suggestions. He did make good effort on it. I shall repost it, then. There's a couple of things I'd like to add anyway, now that I think of it. I hope I don't mess with the formatting, I'm a bit of a newb at this, haha XD;

(btw there's a question I'd like to ask you on an unrelated topic (in fact, two on two different topics), should I make a(/two) new category(/ies)? Yume hanabi (talk) 11:58, February 10, 2014 (UTC)

When exactly can a newly localized game's pages be edited?
I know you said when it's released but what time period does that refer to, its North American release or international release? For instance, right now it's Feb. 24, 7:30 PM where I live. Should I wait till midnight to start editing or can I begin now, like alt milla has been doing?

Oh, and here's a forum post I put together collecting all the localized names if you haven't seen it. I'm sure it'll help. http://talesreserve.forumotion.net/t84-unlocalized-symphonia-artes-titles-enemies#1345 MabiEditor (talk) 01:39, February 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * Naturally the North American release for the North American localization. If we were also listing the translations for foreign releases, then we would follow the PAL localization date. Frankly, I don't want to have to deal with listing Spanish/French/etc names but it is a possible option for this wiki tbh.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 01:55, February 25, 2014 (UTC)

I've got an idea
In honor of ToSC's release, how about we update the picture of Raine on the site with her portrait featured in Chronicles? It's a small change, but it would be a nice change of pace.

MabiEditor (talk) 02:44, February 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * I guess? I don't really care, nor do I see any purpose in changing it, nor do I know how, but it's up to whatever others agree to.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 04:14, February 25, 2014 (UTC)

PS3 Symphonia localizations
Am I allowed, since the game has passed its release date, to edit the new localizations of the usually PS2-exclusive Artes? Or have you not decided what's being done yet thanks to the horribly inconsistent name/audio issue? (Luminous Bind while Holy Binds appears on screen...despite the fact other characters say Shining Bind).


 * People have been making their own changes autonomously and refuse to wait for the proper game to be put on the shelves for release, and at this point I have no capacity to stop the changes that are happening because they will have to be done later anyway. But it would have been nice, and at least greatly appreciated, if people would take the discretion to wait for a bit.


 * With regards to the inconsistent voices and arte names, we must go by what is shown in the menus, or lacking that, what is shown in the arte banners. Things that the characters say can be treated as phrases that can be used to describe the artes without necessarily being the arte name, and they can be recognized in the arte pages as their quotes/incantations/whatever. This is like the alternate voice aspect of Vesperia and Graces, or Lloyd's "I'll show you... divine justice!" in the original game. Inconsistent voices was an actual issue in Eternia too - the menus show "Ground Dasher", but the game displays "Earth Shaker" in the arte banner for both allies and enemies. So Ground Dasher is considered to be the proper name when used by the player characters, while Earth Shaker is the enemy name for the arte.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 09:26, February 25, 2014 (UTC)

Listen, I saw your posted warning message. If there is any way I could avoid the mistakes I made trying to fill in some missing links, could you give me some pointers? --XZone (talk) 22:40, February 25, 2014 (UTC)XZone

Establishing a Media Policy/Guidelines for The Tales Wiki
Hi Mayu Miyuki,

My name is Luis and I am a Community Support Manager (ES) and Video Community Lead at Wikia. I had a few questions regarding The Tales Wiki and was told you were the person to speak to. Let me start off by saying that I am a big fan of the Tales series. When I worked at Namco Bandai Games America I had the pleasure of working on Tales of Destiny, Tales of Phantasia, Tales of Eternia, Tales of Abyss, Tales of Vesperia, and Tales of Symphonia. :)

As you know Wikia is currently working with communities to create Video Policies/Guidelines to their specific Wikias. As you may already know Wikia currently has been establishing an expansive library of fully licensed Wikia videos covering various forms of entertainment.

Video Swap (LVS) is our newest tool which allows admins to quickly swap videos from outside providers to the same (or very similar) video that exists in our library at Wikia Video. All our videos are fully licensed with no expiration date.

We are always looking to improve on what we can provide to our users and if it was ok with you, we would like to know what we can do to better your experience.

Lastly we want to encourage communities to create a Video Policy/Guidelines that cater to the needs of your Wikia community regarding the uploading of any media for users to reference when visiting your site if you haven't done so already. If so, do you think you could link me to it? I would greatly appreciate it! We will we doing a feature on Wikias with Video Policy/Guidelines in the near future in order for those Wikias that need references to get some help in establishing their own.

Here are a few examples:

Tardis

Skyrim

Thanks again for your time!

Mighty No. 9 (talk) 22:51, February 25, 2014 (UTC)

Message received
Look, I realize you've got a lot to deal with (managing an entire wikia site isn't easy, after all.) But if there is any advice you can give so I won't be repeating any mistakes (since I got your message and all), I am willing to listen --XZone (talk) 23:14, February 25, 2014 (UTC)XZone

Yeah no.
Hi, I am the local wikia inspector. I would like to know about your wiki. And who is the founder of the wiki?--TheMage Mystery and Madness (talk) 13:02, March 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * http://imageshack.com/a/img199/6540/myl2.jpg
 * http://imageshack.com/a/img855/235/6g04.jpg
 * >mfw


 * Please don't impersonate any kind of actual Wikia personnel. The information you ask about this wiki can be found via the special pages functions. Not that it matters since the founder fell off the face of the earth and the site itself belongs to the English Tales community.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 13:46, March 1, 2014 (UTC)

Brambert was originally going to be playable?
I guess this is probably old news to longtime Tales fans, but I honestly had forgotten about the old magazine scan that shows Brambert having a battle sprite and status portrait art.

http://tcrf.net/images/d/de/Tales_of_phantasia_magazine_battle.png

http://tcrf.net/images/f/fc/Tales_of_phantasia_rambar_2.png

I guess having him in the party would have made poor Chester, and by magic extension Arche, obsolete. Letdragon (talk) 06:29, March 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, it's something that is known to most fans who are aware of the full history of the series starting with Tale Phantasia, but most of the fanbase today wouldn't ever have guessed about this. Even Rhea was slotted as a party member before her plot involvement got axed and she turned into a ghost that can posess people. I choose to view Brambard as a proto-Chester though. Once the concept of Chester was implemented in the game, Brambard became obsolete as a player character due to the overlap with Chester's abilities, and with the game being what it was back in the Super Famicom days, the devs likely didn't see a need for multiple archers who bear the exact same facial features and a slightly different hairstyle - just compare their status icons.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 13:50, March 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * I noticed that too. Chester does kind of look like him. Like you said, it's likely why he was axed as a playable for that reason. Two archers would have been strange at the time when each character had their own unique weapon. Then again, in every version of Phantasia, no two characters ever share any weapons (though does Rody share any weapons with Cless in Phantasia X?). Letdragon (talk) 06:08, March 4, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks a lot man. Appreciate you messaging me, haha ^^

Been getting inactive, sorry guys
I know I haven't been doing much of anything at all lately. I suppose an explanation is in order, not really to clear a guilty conscience but to at least inform people. Real life sucks. I find myself with a lot of responsibilities to handle all of a sudden, and my online tendency to rage and rant is manifesting pretty badly in reality, as a combination of lethargy and internal meltdown. Basically I've been burned out on a lot of things, and my internal stress and anger levels had skyrocketed to the point that I had been venting everywhere online, only to avoid any similar explosion from happening irl. And yet the reverse is starting to happen. I haven't had time to accomplish anything on this site in the past year, I guess, and certain irritant factors hereabouts only added to my exhaustion. I'm still refreshing the recent changes log regularly, but I'm barely lifting a finger to do anything anymore because I think my anger issues will only cause more worthless problems.

I dunno, I feel like resigning or something on this site because nothing much is improving anymore. I'm pretty sure that's my fault for keeping things so deeply entrenched under rules, though necessary to keep out the biggest free radicals. I know some genuine contributors had been scared off, and the place stagnated as a result. Granted, the one who should have been scared off forever refused to do so, and any effort directed toward the outright rejection of that particular case only repelled everyone else. And to be honest, now that we lack a central base to explain my case for posterity's sake, people assume that it's all just powertripping and naziism at work. And I agree with them - I wouldn't want to work under me either.

I'm not looking for a hugbox. Don't comfort me or give me lip service. I hate that. I'm just trying to establish a renewal of sorts, not necessarily with me leading the charge. I'm not entirely sure what this would entail as of yet, but I know my presence here hasn't exactly been progressive for Aselia after the first couple of years.

Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 13:44, April 22, 2014 (UTC)

I understand. I get that way sometimes too, and because I care and have contributed quite a bit to this wiki, I don't think I could leave at this point. However, real life does tend to interfere, and I sometimes find myself raging at having to fix edits on here, simply because I've had a day full of class, work, and other things. After all you've done for this wiki, I really hope you choose not to resign. Can a wiki have more than one admin? You could always appoint someone else to assist you. I'm gradually attempting to become as involved as I once was with this wiki, but I don't see that happening in full until this semester is complete. I don't believe you're to blame for the strictness here. To an extent, it's quite necessary, or this wiki would be full of crap. I realize that genuine contributors have been scared away, and I may be partially to blame for that. Having a busy or stressful day, only to come home, load the Recent Changes page on here, and find a genuine contributor having made a few mistakes in their editing - I'm guilty of reverting the edit and raging instead of fixing it and providing feedback. I'm working on that.

Whatever you decide, I'm sure things will work out.

Edit: I don't know why I asked if a wiki can have more than one admin, when I know very well that it can. A recent question posted on the help desk jogged my memory, and I now remember seeing (and I believe posting once) on the founder's talk page. I guess what I don't understand entirely is the difference between admins and bureaucrats. You are an admin, capable of doing all the things you typically do to prevent spam and vandalism and whatnot. The founder is a bureaucrat? Which means only he is able to perform the big actions, such as making another user admin? Or are you a bureaucrat, as well? I suppose I'm just trying to gain a better understanding of the wiki's current situation. I'll wait for your reply.

Moviebaby (talk) 00:37, April 23, 2014 (UTC)


 * This might be the part where I say that I've felt driven out from content-based pages. The editing environment feels almost stifling, so I hesitate to stray from list-based pages. It's hard to muster much enthusiasm to do anything beyond my relatively narrow interests in artes and tabular information when it feels like anything I do work on gets eviscerated afterward, along with most others who put in an effort. I lack the impetus to poke that hornet's nest and can see why others wouldn't want to either. I just feel uncomfortable, and as a fan working on a wiki, well, I have better things to do. That's just my two cents. Lanate (talk) 03:32, April 23, 2014 (UTC)


 * I had no idea you were going through so much difficulty, but I understand your position on this. It's much the same with me. I have almost no time for wiki editing myself these days. I only have enough time and focus to fix a broken sentence, misspelled word or grammar hiccup here and there, but with real life demanding I find a job, I can never spend more than a few minutes looking through any wiki anywhere, even ones I contributed to so heavily in the last year or two. Once I find a job and things can settle down, maybe I can contribute better here and everywhere else. Letdragon (talk) 19:44, April 24, 2014 (UTC)


 * I am also to blame for your explosions. I contribute info without following rules and even though you guys tell me to leave, with so much data to be inputted I can't, but I dare not touch anything here. I apologize for this. But I felt like if the articles were all made and gotten out of the way it would be less work, but the reverse was true. I was only piling more work for you, and that was not fair. It isn't as detailed as it was and I am just someone who can not accept change from out of the blue. I too am a fan of this series. Though my collection isn't as big as all the editors put together. Also, my two cents on the matter that in the end, with new stuff on the horizon we don't get to add any more of and to the old. That's all I have to say. Again, I'm sorry.
 * Signed, Winxfan1. (I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club) 22:51, April 26, 2014 (UTC)

@Moviebaby - the [generalized] hierarchy of user rights on a site is as follows:
 * Wikia admins/staff/VSTF
 * Founder
 * Bureaucrat (aka Administrator)
 * Sysop (basically Moderator)
 * normal users

I am technically considered to be a sysop. So yes, I do not in fact have the power to do anything else aside from managing spam and whatnot, though I used to be able to modify the wiki's CSS files before Wikia changed the terms of service for everyone under the network when they forced Oasis down our throats. I had to request for these rights from Imaginationac after a particularly bad vandalism episode, though I had been managing the site de facto for a couple of years prior to that. Those were the years when I was actually getting things done, I guess.

Imaginationac is the only bureaucrat, though I think his powers are not much different from a sysop, aside from the fact that he is the only one who can add more sysops, along with those who hold a level above him. That's why I can't add anyone to have my same level of power unless I grab his attention again (though he hasn't been around since forever) or request such from Wikia Central. The site founder, "Demon Fang", literally created the site, did a few random page creations for less than 2 weeks, then disappeared from the web and hasn't resurfaced since. Imaginationac "adopted" the wiki since it was literally untouched at that time, and he requested for administrative rights through Wikia Central. The founder of a wiki cannot ever be changed, so this "Demon Fang" guy is stuck there no matter what, and he is the only one who can set proper admins without going through Wikia Central.

Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 08:15, April 27, 2014 (UTC)

@Mayu:

That's unfortunate. I doubt it would be possible to get into contact with him again, and I had never even heard of "Demon Fang". I was under the impression that Imaginationac was the founder of the wiki. Regardless, do you think contacting Wikia Central would be our best option in this matter? Also, did you change your username? The only reason I ask is because I see that you sign with "Byakuren Hijiri" instead of "Mayu Miyuki", perhaps for consistency and to avoid confusion. Just curious, but if not, is it possible to change one's username? I created my wiki account during a different phase in my life...

Moviebaby (talk) 22:22, April 27, 2014 (UTC)


 * @MB - That "Demon Fang" guy disappeared in 2007, iirc. Usernames can only be changed with a support request filed to Wikia Central, though I never changed my username. I just set my user settings to automatically use whatever I wanted for a name, and I had been using other names in my sig before this. I stopped caring about changing this again, though I'd probably have shifted to "Shizune Hakamichi" by now if I bothered with it.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 22:36, April 27, 2014 (UTC)

Typical Winxfan shit
@Winxfan:

I forgot to mention this earlier. Another user plagiarized several of your Vesperia location articles and published them under his/her name. You may want to ensure that this information is removed from wherever he/she may have obtained it so that it doesn't happen again. I realize that I still have them in my talk page archive (which I'm considering removing, just in case), but I doubt that user found them there. If they're on that knock-off wiki of yours, I hesitate to tell you to remove them from there, as I remember Mayu stating that a wiki can only be shut down if the edit history is relatively inactive. Anyway, just thought I'd throw that out there.

Moviebaby (talk) 22:22, April 27, 2014 (UTC)

@MB, you mean my Tales of Wiki? Actually, I wrote those location articles myself, they just got tweaked by you and Mayu, but they are not on here. But if it must, I'll delete them. I still have the originals, which are updated, saved on my laptop. Little confused cause those articles were done more than 2 years ago.

But wait, those vesperia location articles, you mean here or at the tales of Wiki? I went over the Heliord article and compared it to the updated version I have on my laptop. The plagarist must have taken the info from Tales of wikia. May I have the history of Heliord article from here? If it's a match from the knockoff wiki, we'll have our plagarist. But I'll delete them just in case.

@MB, Edit: They have all been deleted. But I still have the originals in my laptop. I remember going up to Phaeroh's Crag but that's all I remember. After that, I stopped. My Winxfan profile for my Xbox 360 locked me out and I couldn't remember my password, so now I gotta play though Vesperia again. Luckily I still have all the trophies but that does not make up for the hours I have to put into it again. I remember things happening at the Blade Drifts of Zophier, but I don't remember much. Still in the process of completing the Milla side of Xillia, but hesitant as I am not a fan of cruelty like how the villagers of Ha Mil treated Elize or Jude's dad slapping him for being stupid. Don't get me wrong I don't hate the guy, especially when he's grateful to Jude for saving his life in a sidequest. Or Isla ending up like Virginia Sage. That, was especially sad for me.

Sorry for bringing up a pointless conversation. Just one more thing: In the Xillia databox thing, Shouldn't "Tools" be renamed as "Materials" and "Attachments" be renamed Fashion since there are no costume titles, Valuables is okay, but what is the point of Search Points and Strategy? Just saying, but what do I know? Signed, Winxfan1. (I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club) 01:16, April 28, 2014 (UTC)

I'm saying that someone copied that information and published it under his/her name. What I don't know is where they got it from, but most likely, it was from your wiki. Mayu has already deleted the plagiarized material. As for the Xillia question, I haven't played the game yet, so I don't know. Mayu may know.

Moviebaby (talk) 01:52, April 28, 2014 (UTC)

If they did get it from my wiki, they won't anymore. I deleted it.

As For Xillia, I hear Gamestop has it, either in store or online. Save up your cash, check out the Gamestop in your area, buy it, play it, and you'll be sucked in. Also, I played Symphonia in Symphonia Chronicles. After playing it I can honestly say I prefer the sequel. Sorry again. Speaking of Xillia, Can I put Presa's Mystic Arte cut-in pic in the Fighting Style section of her article?

Signed, Winxfan1. (I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club) 02:22, April 28, 2014 (UTC)


 * I really wish this particular Winxfan discussion could have been posted anywhere else outside of this topic. Or page. Or website. Or reality. It's encouragements like this that keep Winxfan around despite my best efforts to achieve the opposite. Winxfan, stop blogging ffs.


 * Byakuren Hijiri (talk) 04:11, April 28, 2014 (UTC)

Okay, okay. before you end the discussion, tell me one thing. My Xillia food article, you could have deleted it the moment it was published but didn't. Why?

Also, it would have been a smart thing for me to move the conversation between me and MB to her talk page or mine.

Signed, Winxfan1. (I am the ultimate fan of Winx Club) 11:38, April 28, 2014 (UTC)


 * There is no conversation. Stop posting.


 * Shizune Hakamichi (talk) 13:45, April 28, 2014 (UTC)