Tales of ______
Should we organize the games differently instead of by the beginning of their name, because all of the games start with "Tales" --Omly 01:17, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
- It's auto-matic we can't change it.
Main Games=Mothership Titles
I suggest we change this category to "Mothershio Titles", as that is the official name that Namco Bandai has given the main games. I can do that, but I want to know if there is any objection. If not, I'll do it tomorrow. The same goes to eventual other names for "Escort Titles". I probably won't remove the "Tales of the World"-category, as the TotW-games almost are a sub-series on its own.
Penamesolen 20:03, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
- I have wanted to change that huge and badly formatted table on the front page for a long time now, but you know how I am with being lazy. Yes, we do need to have separate sections named "Mothership Titles" and "Escort Titles". I want to have the "World" and "Fandom" games sorted below the escorts, and then the "Mobile" games just combined into one entry, since no one pays attention to those games anyway (seriously, no one who speaks English was aware that Material Dungeon even existed until over a year later).
- There shouldn't be a table, since it squeezes all of the game titles and causes word-wrapping all over the place. A simple list works much better, and it would be easier to read. The game types should be separated using those header bars that are used for News and Featured Articles on the main page. The color for those header bars is up to you. I don't know if we should have a section for the anime/OVA series, or have a section for "Other Tales Media" which lists category links for all of the manga, drama CDs, soundtracks, and so on; it depends on how much space all of this would take up on the main page. (We need to make a new article for "Tales of Vesperia ~The First Strike~" as well.)
- Also, I want to add a section for the various fangames and translation patches that are floating around the internets, but I don't know Imaginationac's and Wikia's policies for linking to those sites. There should be nothing illegal about describing these doujins/fanworks or linking to their host sites, but you never know. Some of them deserve more attention than we're providing for them, and I really want to be able to credit them, even despite the things I don't like about some of them. This kind of thing can be ignored for now; the main page reorganization is more important.
- One other aesthetic issue: that "Newest Articles" section should be moved lower on the page, or removed entirely. This wiki's default skin already has a function that displays those, and the "News" section is far more important than this.
- ...yeah. I have a lot of ideas for renovating the main page, and other things throughout this wiki.
Blame my lack of interest with this wiki on my recent obsession with SMT Online: IMAGINE. It's like Mabinogi, but without Nexon's trolling faggotry! I love it!
- Mayu Miyuki 20:52, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
- EDIT - Oh wait, you were talking about the categories only. Uhh... sorry for that "main page" tangent. You know I support changing it to "Mothership" and "Escort", so yeah.
- Mayu Miyuki 20:56, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
- Haha, that's all right. To be honest, I found it quite funny when I realized that you weren't talking about the categories. But I agree that tables like you were talking about could work. I've meant it seems a little strange in the main page, but that's just my opinion from watching with this computer.
- By the way, I've known about Material Dungeon for long time, but I just never cared because I know I'll never get the game :D Though, uh, this topic should maybe be added in the main page's talk page, now that I'm thinking about it... :/
- And, uh, if it's okay, I think I'll just start editing the categories now. I can't seem to be able to sleep tonight (too many American chocolate cakes, I think), so might as well do that, so that it's done.
- Penamesolen 22:16, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Etymology of game names
There are some peculiar names for Mothership Titles in the series. I was just wondering if anyone had any idea as to why these games are named these unusual names. I'm mostly curious, but I'd also like to add trivia to their respective pages. Some of the more recent names make me think they were purely invented out of nothing for the sake of an interesting title.
Edit: For example, I assume Tales of the Abyss was named with the correlation of the Qliphoth being the "abyss" in mind. However, I see titles like Tales of Symphonia and assume that due to its similarity to the word symphony, it would be a more fitting title for Abyss, which utilizes a musical theme. I don't know. Just thinking out loud.
- Abyss was originally referred to as "Tales of Harmonia", or at least that was one of the trademarked names during that cycle. Incidentally, during development it was known as TO7, or Tales of Seven, being the 7th main series title created by Wolf Team/Telnet Japan/Namco Tales Studio (thus excluding Legendia). Every set of game names is chosen from a pool of trademarks that Namco adds each year. Tempest was also included among "Tales of Two Faces/Faiths"; Graces (aka Tales of Ten during development, excluding Legendia and Innocence from the count) was trademarked originally as "Tales of Gracia" (leading to lol misspelled spanish jokes). Xillia was trademarked alongside "Tales of Zestia" (spelled as is) and "Tales of Faithus". Essentially, there is no set reason for choosing the names that they do, and some names that they choose are later reused/modified for later use... and the names get more random as the series life continues.
- For an actual etymology, Phantasia gets its name from "Tale Phantasia", Destiny comes from the general concept, and Eternia comes from the multi-world construct of Eternia that the god Seyfert created. After that, the name correlations seem to be "whatever sounds good" even if they just add "-ia" to a random word. People do assert that Abyss relates to the Qliphoth and that Harmonia fits the actual theme of the game, but other game names are really just branded onto a game that does not give any meaning to the name itself, like Xillia.