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Design change

Because I absolutely don't know how to edit these kind of templates without breaking them I'd like to request a design change for this template. What I think would be better is having "Ephinea" and "Fodra" dropdown menus, and for "Ephinea" to have "Windor", "Strahta", "Fendel", and "Other Locations" (here locations which are not under any country's jurisdiction would be placed). "Windor", "Strahta", and "Fendel" can redirect to section of "Ephinea" article, unless we want to give them own articles since not only there are different countries, but they have different political structures.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 21:31, April 26, 2015 (UTC)

Let me hear from Lanate before I do anything. He's played the game and is familiar with the direction I'm wanting to take with location pages.

Arosia (talk) 02:51, April 27, 2015 (UTC)

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"Ghardia Shaft" and "Lambda's Cocoon" are not located on Fodra: they are part of "World's Eye", an island in the middle of Ephinea's ocean. After Lambda-Richard unleashed his powers on "World's Eye" it became "Lambda's Cocoon" and deep within that cocoon is the way, called "Ghardia Shaft", to Ephinea's Lastalia. Please correct the template so it doesn't contain wrong information.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 08:52, August 5, 2015 (UTC)

Please do it yourself because we are not your assistants, although Mayu did that, so you may want to consult with her first.

Arosia (talk) 16:46, August 5, 2015 (UTC)

I'd do it myself, but two things:
  • I don't know how should I "section" it. Should I create "World's Eye" and for its dropdown menu "Lambda's Cocoon" and "Ghardia Shaft"?
  • I'm looking at the template coding in general on this Wiki and I'm on the verge of tears: I can't make any sense of it. From the quick glance at few other Wikis which I'm not a visitor I noticed they have {{navbox}} template on which they build other templates and I think that's good, because it's actually quite easy to learn how to use it. I understand that the current coding allows for desired template sections to be visible, like for locations, but the {{navbox}} template could also be edited to do it. And categories could still be added via template.
So yeah, my main reason why I don't particularly edit templates on this Wiki is because of their "uncentralized" coding, even though they all follow the same pattern.
Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 19:09, August 5, 2015 (UTC)
It probably shows that I never finished the game, because I didn't care enough about the story to get any farther than the stuff that happens within the first hour of entering Fendel. I got to meet the Bagel of this world, and that's all that really mattered to me. I put those locations where they are partly due to my own assumptions, partly to add in the missing crap and sort everything in a feasible way, and partly to completely scrap out the fact that this template was created at all, despite it being WHOLLY unnecessary, and irritatingly so. It's all just red links! It has been over a year since the template was created! We would have had to create the template sooner or later, which is why I didn't delete it outright, but it's -still- all red links one year later! Not only was this error brought up a year late (which ties into the other recent hot topic about how errors have a tendency to stay for years until people point at it and complain), this template -still- has no purpose, floating in the void of unused templates. I'd rather just delete it. Thinking back, I probably created some other location templates for different games after this one popped up, but that was to subvert any template creations for those games without doing things the right way because I didn't want to risk the creation of those templates by others, in the same manner as this one. If those are still unused, they should be scrapped as well.
As for the way it was coded, do you really think I care to pay attention to the way other wiki sites do things? First of all, the location navbox templates were not created by me. They were based on code taken (or stolen without credit) from (most likely) FFWiki. And as I said in a previous conversation, the code of both that site and our own wiki ended up diverging in different ways, not unlike how evolution works for the same ancestor in different localities. While the originating site has the advantage of more users who are skilled enough in coding to make necessary infrastructure adjustments over time, Aselia has none of that. Any adjustments that I have made to the code is to differentiate ourselves enough from other sites so that any possible thievery in the past becomes irrelevant now.
If people could provide a better way of coding things while still maintaining the exact same output and without blatantly copying the coding theory of other sites, then go for it. But if the use of embedded templates amount to very little cleanup of the code due to the unique parameters each game would require for its locations, then what is the point. I honestly don't care either way, since the templates are functional the way they are now, and only this template didn't deserve to exist in the first place.
Audrey Belrose is my spirit animal. (talk) 23:10, August 5, 2015 (UTC)

Japanese names

  • Lhant Hill (ラントの裏山 Ranto no Urayama?, "Mountainback of Lhant")
  • Lhant (ラント Ranto?)
  • Barona (バロニア Baronia?, "Baronia")
  • Barona Catacombs (王都地下 Outochika?, "Capital Underground")
  • Orlen Woods (オーレンの森 Ooren no Mori?, "Forest of Oren")
  • Seaside Cavern (海辺の洞窟 Umibe no Doukutsu?, "Seashore Cave")
  • ???? (ウォールブリッジ地下遺跡 Uooruburijji Chikaiseki?, "Wallbridge Underground Ruins")
  • Gralesyde (グレルサイド Gurerusaido?)
  • Wallbridge (ウォールブリッジ Uooruburijji?)
  • Oul Raye (オル・レイユ Oru Reiyu?)
  • Strahta Craglands (ストラタ岩石砂漠 Sutorata Gansekisabaku?, "Strahta Rock Desert")
  • Sable Izolle (セイブル・イゾレ Seiburu Izore?)
  • Strahta Desert (ストラタ大砂漠 Sutorata Daisabaku?, "Strahta Great Desert")
  • ???? (ロックガガン体内 Rokkugagan Tainai?, "Rockagong Body Interior")
  • Yu Liberte (ユ・リベルテ Yu Riberute?)
  • Sandshround Ruins (ストラタ砂漠遺跡 Sutorata Sabakuiseki?, "Strahta Desert Ruins")
  • Riot Peak (闘技島 Tougishima?, "Competition Island")
  • Velanik (ベラニック Beranikku?, "Beranik")
  • Zavhert (ザヴェート Zaveeto?)
  • Mt. Zavhert (ザヴェート山 Zaveeto Yama?)
  • Amarcian Enclave (アンマルチアの里 Anmaruchia no Sato?, "Anmarcian Village")
  • Fendel Research Laboratory (スニーク研究所 Suniiku Kenkyuujo?, "Sneak Research Institute")
  • Fendel Tower (フェンデル政府塔 Fenderu Seifutou?, "Fendel Government Tower")
  • Fendel Glacier (フェンデル氷山遺跡 Fenderu Hyouzaniseki?, "Fendel Iceberg Ruins")
  • World's Eye (世界の中心の孤島 Sekai no Chuushin no Kotou?, "Isolated Island in the Center of the World")
  • Snowshroud Ruins (雪に閉ざされた遺跡?)
  • Telos Astue (テロスアステュ Terosuasutyu?, "Telosastue")
  • Humanoid Research Center (コーネル研究施設 Kooneru Kenkyuushisetsu?, "Cornel Research Facility")
  • Bathus Citadel (バシス軍事基地 Bashisu Gunjikichi?, "Basis Military Base")
  • Lambda's Cocoon (ラムダ繭 Ramuda Mayu?, "Lambda Cocoon")
  • Ghardia Shaft (ガルディアシャフト Garudiashafuto?)
  • Katz Korner (ねこにんの村 Nekonin no Mura?, "Katz Village")
  • Oswell Family Vault (オズウェル宝物庫 Ozueru Takaramonoku?, "Ozwell Treasury Warehouse")
  • Beach Resort (スパリゾート Suparizooto?, "Spa Resort")

I am actually uncertain if I got the correct names for Sandshround and Snowshround Ruins.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 17:29, February 22, 2017 (UTC)

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